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The 3 Critical Moments of Speaking Anxiety and How to Overcome Them for Leadership Success with guest Jimmy Cannon

The 3 Critical Moments of Speaking Anxiety and How to Overcome Them for Leadership Success with guest Jimmy Cannon

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In this episode of The Kind Leader podcast, host Gino Degregori interviews Jimmy Cannon, a public speaking coach, behavioral therapist, and former professional musician. Jimmy shares his expertise on finding and mastering your authentic leadership voice through his Canon Method, which focuses on mastering voice, building confidence, and commanding presence. Jimmy discusses his background as a saxophonist and singer for 25-30 years before transitioning to coaching. Originally intending to help experienced speakers improve their voice dynamics, he found himself working more with professionals who had been promoted to leadership roles and were struggling with speaking anxiety. This led him to study acceptance and commitment therapy along with leadership coaching. The conversation explores the parallels between jazz improvisation and public speaking, with both Gino and Jimmy sharing their experiences as saxophonists. They discuss how genuine connection to your message, mindfulness practices, and regular practice can help overcome speaking anxiety. Jimmy explains that anxiety peaks at three points: when receiving a speaking assignment, 60 seconds before speaking, and immediately after finishing. Jimmy's approach includes helping clients identify their values, practice mindfulness exercises connected to breath work, and desensitize themselves to speaking through regular recording and feedback. He suggests various exercises to improve improvisational speaking skills, including using the last three words of your conversation partner's sentence to begin your own response. The episode concludes with rapid-fire questions where Jimmy recommends Julian Treasure's book "How to be Heard," shares his pre-speaking lip trill ritual, and advises leaders to "fill the space that you're in and not further" to improve vocal presence. 5 Valuable Quotes "Kind leadership is about respect and empathy, which are very similar but also very different... Deep listening is a really key skill that a lot of leaders lack." - Jimmy Cannon "When we're talking about internal or cognitive fusion, we're talking about negative thoughts that also come out physically, they come out in your physiology." - Jimmy Cannon "As a leader, you have to be absolutely genuinely connected to the message. It can't just be a separate thing. You have to sign up to the ethos and the ethical message of the company." - Jimmy Cannon "The message has to have the emotional connection to the audience that you're delivering it to... That means as a leader, you have to be absolutely genuinely connected to the message." - Jimmy Cannon "Research says that the most heightened areas or times of anxiety when you're speaking are: when you're given the brief, 60 seconds before you start speaking, and when you finished." - Jimmy Cannon 5 Key Takeaways The Three Elements of Effective Speaking: Jimmy's Canon Method focuses on voice, presence, and confidence as the three pillars of powerful communication. Mindfulness Exercises for Speaking Anxiety: Using breath as a metaphor for your values can help manage speaking anxiety. Focus on your breath to stay connected to your purpose when negative thoughts arise. Desensitization Through Practice: Regular practice through recording yourself speaking, even without watching it back immediately, helps desensitize you to the anxiety of public speaking. The Jazz Connection: Improvisation techniques from jazz can be applied to public speaking, including listening intently to others, responding to their "rhythm," and creating a collective experience. The Importance of Authenticity: Genuinely connecting to your message and being comfortable with who you are (including imperfections) is more important than technical perfection in leadership communication. Links and Additional Information Jimmy Cannon's website: jimmycannon.com Recommended book: "How to be Heard" by Julian Treasure Pre-speaking ritual: Lip trills for 30-60 seconds to connect your head voice and chest voice Vocal presence tip: "Fill the space that you're in and not further" Jimmy uses an app called "Volley" for client practice and feedback (not affiliated)
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