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This episode was recorded at the AVB CTC in Phoenix, AZ on June 5, 2025.

We explore how perspective in leadership impacts firefighter safety and organizational effectiveness.

• A number of Fireifghters involved in recent line-of-duty deaths were between 25-30 years old
• Danger exists when leaders prioritize being "cool" over passing down hard-earned wisdom
• Effective leadership requires the ability to say "no" in hazardous situations
• Perspective naturally evolves with experience and knowledge
• Tactical supervision (the middle command layer) is critical during extended operations
• Accountability and kindness are not mutually exclusive leadership traits
• Consistency in leadership approach across all contexts maintains organizational integrity
• Operating within effective systems prevents freelancing and improves safety outcomes
• After-action reviews are essential for continuous improvement and perspective development

Join us next week for part two of this special podcast on leadership and perspective in the fire service.