Einstein stated, "We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." This idea came to Jackie's mind during her conversation with the ever awesome Dan Wildcat at WILD12.

He talks about "the age of the Anthropocene"—a time when humans see themselves as the center of everything. And here we are, facing human-caused environmental crises, thinking once again that it’s our role to fix things in the same manner we’ve done in the past.

Dan’s got something to say about that mindset. He says this isn’t about fixing—it’s about healing. If we can step away from this self-centered way of thinking, we might begin to rebuild a connection with nature—a relationship rooted in kinship and respect, where we understand that we’re part of a much larger family.

In today’s episode, we’re diving into these ideas and so much more with Dan. For those who don’t know him, Dan Wildcat is a Yuchi member of the Muscogee Nation of Oklahoma and a passionate advocate for bringing Indigenous wisdom to the fight against climate change.

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