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Supervision Lies, Noncompetes, and 1099 Scams: Red Flags New Therapists Need to Know

Description:
Tired of being told you're not "supervisor material"? Burned out by unethical leadership and broken promises? This episode of Burnout & Bullshit is your unfiltered look at the red flags no one warned you about in grad school.

Host Kayla Schubert-Wirth, LCSW, sits down with Samantha Willi, LPCC-S, a licensed therapist and group practice owner in Ohio, to unpack the shady side of community mental health and private practice—including:

✅ Being denied supervision training with the excuse, “You’ll never be a supervisor.”
✅ Getting forced to stay late in pitch-black buildings—because “the schedule matters more.”
✅ Learning how many group practices misuse the 1099 contractor label (and why it’s a legal mess).

If you're a therapist navigating burnout, toxic work environments, or the confusing world of W2 vs. 1099 roles, this episode is a must-listen.

Key Topics:

• Therapist burnout and ethical supervision
  
  
  
• Noncompete clauses and legal red flags in private practice
  
  
  
• What every early-career therapist should know about contractor roles (1099 vs W2)
  
  
  
• How to advocate for yourself and build a values-driven career in mental health
  
  
  
• Creating safe, affirming, and authentic workplaces for therapists and clients
  
  
  

About the Guest:
Samantha Willi, LPCC-S, is the owner of CLE Counseling and Wellness Center, where she leads with transparency and authenticity. She supervises interns and licensed clinicians, fights against unethical systems, and helps build sustainable careers in the mental health field.

Website: counselinginthecle.com

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Trust your gut when something feels off—especially when the field tells you to stay silent.

In this powerful episode, therapist Larissa Trelles (she/they) shares their raw and courageous journey from first-gen therapy client to becoming a therapist navigating racism, safety threats, and exploitation in the mental health system.

From conducting mobile therapy alone in rural areas during COVID as a Latina intern to confronting unethical leadership, racist microaggressions, and predatory contracts, Larissa’s story is both a warning and a reclamation.

This episode isn’t just about burnout. It’s about survival. It’s about choosing your safety over someone else’s comfort. It’s about showing up in the field without erasing who you are.

Whether you're a new therapist, an associate in a toxic job, or someone who feels like you’ve been gaslit by your own profession—this one’s for you.

🔑 3 Key Takeaways:

1. Listen to Your Gut—It’s There to Protect You
If your body feels unsafe, don’t gaslight yourself into staying. Therapists with marginalized identities often face real threats disguised as “training opportunities.” Your intuition isn’t paranoia—it’s wisdom.

2. Authenticity Isn’t Unprofessional—It’s What Clients Crave
Being asked to erase your identity—tattoos, piercings, language, culture—is not a requirement for clinical work. Larissa reminds us that clients thrive when therapists show up fully as themselves.

3. You Don’t Have to Earn Your Worth by Suffering
Being underpaid, overworked, and mistreated isn’t a rite of passage. You are allowed to say no. You are allowed to leave. You are allowed to build something better.

About Larissa Trelles:

IG @mindfulpsychotherapeutics

Larissa Trelles (she/they) is an indigiqueer, neurospicy Latine therapist offering psychotherapy in English, Portuguese, and Spanish. As a first-gen professional committed to anti-oppressive, decolonizing clinical care, Larissa works with LGBTQIA2S+ and BIPOC communities to reclaim identity, healing, and autonomy. They adapt their work to the lived experience of each client—centering authenticity, ancestral wisdom, and radical safety in all they do.

Larissa has current openings for new clients: https://www.inclusivetherapists.com/delaware/rehoboth-beach/larissa-trelles

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Burned out by broken systems? Let’s build a practice that actually works for you.
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Keywords: therapist burnout, toxic internship, BIPOC therapist experience, Latina therapist, first-gen therapist, associate therapist exploitation, predatory private practice, decolonizing mental health, authentic therapy practice, unethical therapy leadershi

This podcast includes personal opinions and experiences shared by guests and anonymous contributors. All identifying details may be changed to protect confidentiality. These stories are intended for educational and storytelling purposes and are not meant to defame, accuse, or harm any person or organization. Any resemblance to real persons or entities is purely coincidental.

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Episode Summary:

What happens when your grad school internship feels more like a security risk than clinical training? When “supervision” means 4am drug screens, and leadership thinks deli platters are a solution to burnout?

In this raw, unfiltered episode, therapist, TEDx speaker, and retreat leader Patrick Casale shares the chaos, dysfunction, and disillusionment that shaped his early years in mental health—and how he turned that burnout into a thriving, neurodivergent-affirming business.

From methadone clinics and crisis units to international retreats and coaching programs, Patrick’s story is a middle finger to the people who said, “You’ll be back in 30 days.”

3 Key Takeaways:

1. Burnout Isn’t Your Fault—It’s a System Problem
If you’re exhausted, unmotivated, or questioning your place in this field—you’re not the problem. Burnout is a predictable result of toxic, under-resourced systems.

2. You Don’t Have to Suffer to Be a “Real Therapist”
You can be ethical, effective, and successful without sacrificing your mental health. Staying stuck in harmful jobs isn’t a badge of honor.

3. There Is a Better Way to Do This Work
Whether it's building a values-led practice, leading with transparency, or putting your needs first—there’s no one right way to be a therapist.

About Patrick Casale:

Patrick Casale, MA, LCMHC, is an AuDHD therapist, business coach, TEDx speaker, and retreat planner. He’s the founder of All Things Private Practice LLC, co-host of the Divergent Conversations podcast, and host of the All Things Private Practice podcast.

He’s helped thousands of therapists build authentic businesses without abandoning their values. Patrick is known for his signature phrase: “Doubt Yourself. Do It Anyway™.”

He lives in Asheville, NC with his wife Ariel and their two dogs, Hudson and Hazel. He loves Lord of the Rings, Anthony Bourdain, Ted Lasso, cold brew, and craft beer.

Website: allthingspractice.com
Instagram: @patrick.casale | @allthingsprivatepractice

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Burned out by broken systems? Let’s build a practice that actually works for you.
👉 Coaching with Kayla

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🎯 Keywords:

therapist burnout, toxic internships, community mental health, EMDR, private practice coach, neurodivergent therapist, supervision trauma, private practice startup, business coaching for therapists, values-led therapy, therapist podcast, group practice leadership, therapist retention, therapy culture change

This podcast includes personal opinions and experiences shared by guests and anonymous contributors. All identifying details may be changed to protect confidentiality. These stories are intended for educational and storytelling purposes and are not meant to defame, accuse, or harm any person or organization. Any resemblance to real persons or entities is purely coincidental.

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Guest: Cindi Miller MA, LMHC (she/her)
Host: Kayla Schubert-Wirth, MSW, LCSW (she/her)

Therapists are often punished for being good at their work through increased responsibilities with decreased support. When you're the "go-to" clinician, expect to handle everything solo while leadership tells you to just be grateful for the opportunity.

• Working in residential treatment facilities and group practices with unrealistic expectations
• Being thrown into high-acuity situations with zero training or preparation
• Having seven different supervisors in four months, each with conflicting expectations
• Complete lack of safety protocols, including being left alone with a client who pulled a knife
• The double standard of being told to have "intrinsic motivation" while receiving no feedback
• Experiencing burnout from constantly being left to "figure it out" without proper resources
• Showing up authentically with clients despite system pressures to conform
• Finding your path forward might mean leaving toxic workplaces, even without a perfect alternative

If you've ever felt like speaking up made you difficult, if being the go-to therapist has left you drowning in responsibilities and gaslighting, or if you're tired of being told to be grateful for unsafe, unsupported, unpaid work, you're not the problem, the system is.

Resources & Links:

🔹 Cindi's Instagram: @sportsfoodandmentalhealth

🔹 Work with Kayla:
Burned out by broken systems? Build a practice that honors you.
👉 gritandgracepsychotherapy.com

💼 Ready to leave burnout and bullshit behind for good?
If you're a therapist stuck in someone else's version of success and craving a business that actually feels like yours, Kayla offers bold, honest business coaching to help you unlearn the rules and build your private practice on your own terms.
💥 Join the waitlist or apply here

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Guest: Ashley Orbanus, LPC (she/her)
Host: Kayla Schubert-Wirth, MSW, LCSW (she/her)
Podcast: Burnout & Bullshit: Real Stories from the Mental Health Field

What happens when your internship starts with a screen door, a stare-down, and the words:

“You’re 10 minutes early? Good. Learn to value your time—or you won’t make it.”

In this raw and unfiltered episode, Ashley Orbanus, LPC, pulls back the curtain on the appearance policing, burnout culture, and boundary-violating leadership she endured from internship to private practice. From being told to hide her tattoos and remove piercings, to being overworked, underpaid, and unsupported—Ashley’s story is the one too many therapists relate to but are scared to say out loud.

🔥 Topics Covered:

• Toxic internship dynamics & microaggressions
• Tattoo shaming in the therapy world
• 1099 exploitation in private practice
• Therapist burnout and nervous system collapse
• Gaslighting disguised as "professionalism"
• Reclaiming identity and building a values-aligned practice

Chapters

Chapters

00:00 Journey into Mental Health: Personal Trauma and Motivation
02:31 Internship Experiences: Challenges and Lessons Learned
04:32 Navigating Professional Identity: Tattoos and Authenticity in Therapy
08:56 Career Path: From Corrections to Private Practice
11:25 The Reality of Private Practice: Flexibility vs. Burnout
14:33 Navigating Professional Identity and Authenticity
16:54 Turning Points in Private Practice
21:46 The Importance of Support and Boundaries
26:11 Advice for New Therapists and Challenging Norms
33:24 Introduction to Raw Conversations
33:46 Finding the Right Therapist

✨ Resources & Links:

🔹 Ashley’s Profile:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/ashley-orbanus-shickshinny-pa/894781

🔹 Work with Kayla:
Burned out by broken systems? Build a practice that honors you.
👉 gritandgracepsychotherapy.com

💼 Ready to leave burnout and bullshit behind for good?
If you're a therapist stuck in someone else's version of success and craving a business that actually feels like yours, Kayla offers bold, honest business coaching to help you unlearn the rules and build your private practice on your own terms.
💥 Join the waitlist or apply here

💌 Be Part of the Show:

📝 Apply to be a guest:
https://forms.gle/fvm82tXdhRmpZ2TE7

🕵️‍♀️ Submit your story anonymously:
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📬 Join Kayla’s Email List for therapist support, raw stories, and no-BS biz tips:
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📲 Tag us on Instagram @therapy_with_kayla and let us know what part hit hardest.

This podcast includes personal opinions and experiences shared by guests and anonymous contributors. All identifying details may be changed to protect confidentiality. These stories are intended for educational and storytelling purposes and are not meant to defame, accuse, or harm any person or organization. Any resemblance to real persons or entities is purely coincidental.

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Guest: Katie May, MA, LPC (she/her)
Host: Kayla Schubert-Wirth, MSW, LCSW (she/her) | Burnout & Bullshit: Real Stories from the Mental Health Field

Summary:
What if the gaslighting isn’t coming from the top down—but from “below”? In this raw and unfiltered episode, therapist and leadership coach Katie May, LPC joins Kayla to dismantle one of the most harmful deflections in group practice culture:

👉 “Sometimes the toxicity comes from below.”

Yeah… no.

From her early days in a partial hospitalization program to building a sustainable, values-aligned group practice, Katie shares the lessons no one tells you about leadership, accountability, and what it actually takes to build a workplace where people don’t ghost you after giving notice.

Whether you’re a therapist who's been scapegoated—or a group practice owner ready to face hard truths—this episode will challenge, validate, and empower you.

🔥 Topics Covered:

• What “toxicity from below” really means
• How shady onboarding and passive-aggressive policies breed burnout
• Boundaries, supervision, and real leadership vs. control
• Questions to ask in therapist interviews
• How to spot hiring red flags
• Why clients aren’t property—and how that mindset hurts everyone
• What it looks like to lead with integrity

🧠 Chapters:

00:00 – Introduction to Toxic Leadership
02:01 – Why “Toxicity from Below” Is a Myth
03:10 – Clear Expectations as a Practice Owner
05:56 – Supervision and Communication
07:26 – Leadership Starts with Inner Work
10:04 – Clients Are Not Property
13:05 – Interview Questions for Therapists
15:08 – Red Flags to Spot When Job Hunting
19:12 – When a Practice Works Too Well
25:37 – What is Stabilize & Scale
28:58 – Final Reflections: Responsibility at the Top

✨ Resources & Links:

🔹 Katie May’s Stabilize & Scale Program
Group practice owner? Build values-driven systems that actually work.
👉 becomeagroupguru.com/scale

🔹 Work with Kayla
Burned out by broken systems? Build a practice that honors you.
👉 gritandgracepsychotherapy.com

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💥 Keywords: burnout, therapist burnout, toxic workplace, leadership in therapy, group practice, private practice growth, therapist support, supervision, onboarding, therapist interviews, boundaries, business coaching, mental health podcast

This podcast includes personal opinions and experiences shared by guests and anonymous contributors. All identifying details may be changed to protect confidentiality. These stories are intended for educational and storytelling purposes and are not meant to defame, accuse, or harm any person or organization. Any resemblance to real persons or entities is purely coincidental.

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E3: Red Flags, Sand Trays, and Shit Pay: The Lies They Sell New Therapists with Ally Henry MA, LPC (she/her)

Summary

In this raw and unfiltered episode of Burnout & Bullsht*, host Kayla Schubert-Wirth sits down with Ally Henry, LPC, to expose the early signs of burnout and the brutal realities therapists face behind closed doors. From being paid $17 an hour to work with sex-trafficked teens (with zero trauma training) to being hired at a private practice after bartending their Christmas party—Ally shares the red flags, the system failures, and the moments that made her say: this can’t be it.

They dive deep into the toxic work environments so many clinicians endure, the performative nature of supervision, the false promises of private practice, and the financial minefield of 1099 work. You’ll hear about navigating mental health roles during COVID-19, why community care matters more than competition, and the power of real, authentic supervision.

This isn’t just a story—it’s a call to action for therapists stuck in survival mode.

If you’ve ever wondered, “Is it me… or is it the system?”—this episode is your answer.

🎧 In this episode, we cover:

• What it’s really like starting out in community mental health

• Why lack of trauma training is a systemic failure

• Red flags no one warns you about in private practice

• The reality of being a 1099 therapist without financial prep

• Why self-advocacy, mentorship, and leaving matter

• How Ally finally found a workplace that pays her to rest

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Burnout and Mental Health Challenges

01:06 Recognizing Early Signs of Burnout

03:34 Navigating Toxic Work Environments

07:01 The Importance of Advocacy and Self-Trust

10:09 Defining Effective Clinical Supervision

12:48 The Role of Authenticity in Therapy

15:08 Transitioning Between Jobs in Mental Health

19:12 Resignation and Rebuilding in the Private Sector

21:34 The Honeymoon Phase of Private Practice

24:40 Red Flags in Private Practice

27:37 Navigating Challenges During COVID

30:45 Finding the Right Fit in Private Practice

33:01 The Importance of Community in Mental Health

36:05 Advice for New Therapists

🔹 Work with Ally – Ally has openings for therapy clients, and her team is hiring!

Want to work alongside a therapist who actually gets it? ⁠Reset Outdoors⁠ is changing the game for mental health professionals in Pennsylvania. If you're looking for trauma-informed, community-centered work that doesn’t burn you out—go check them out.

🔹 Work with Kayla – Burned out, fed up, and ready to build a private practice that actually works for you? Check out my 1:1 coaching and consultation for therapists: ⁠gritandgracepsychotherapy.com⁠

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🎙️ Episode 2: Burnout, Resilience, & What They Don’t Tell You in Grad School

Podcast: Burnout & Bullsht: Real Stories from the Mental Health Field*

🧠 Keywords: burnout, mental health, social work, resilience, education, graduate school, self-care, therapist life, trauma, over-functioning, healthcare

📖 Description:
Before the license. Before the letters after your name.
Burnout starts when you’re chasing trauma papers across a stranger’s yard, working 30 hours a week, and pretending a concussion is no big deal.

In this episode, Kayla Schubert-Wirth, LCSW and EMDR trainer, shares her unfiltered story of surviving undergrad and grad school in the mental health field. From unpaid internships and academic pressure to untreated health crises and impossible expectations, she breaks down how burnout begins long before your first paycheck.

This one’s for the grad students, interns, and early-career therapists who are drowning in over-functioning and calling it passion.

💥 You’ll Learn:
• Burnout doesn’t wait for licensure—it starts in school
• Unrealistic expectations destroy nervous systems
• You’re replaceable at work—but not at home
• Health matters more than hustle
• Self-advocacy is a survival skill in helping professions

⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 – The Journey to Resilience
02:23 – Burnout Before the Paycheck
05:11 – The Chaos of Grad School
07:36 – When Health Collapses
10:24 – Early Career Red Flags
12:37 – Lessons from the Breakdown

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This podcast includes personal opinions and experiences shared by guests and anonymous contributors. All identifying details may be changed to protect confidentiality. These stories are intended for educational and storytelling purposes and are not meant to defame, accuse, or harm any person or organization. Any resemblance to real persons or entities is purely coincidental.