Natalie Bryant is a Sir Roland Wilson Pat Turner PhD Scholar and a Yuin woman from NSW. Her doctoral research asks: what could Indigenous self-determination do for Australia’s hospital system? Natalie speaks with Jess about Closing the Gap target (1) everyone enjoys long and healthy lives; and priority area (3) transforming government organisations.

Pat Turner sits on the National Apology Foundation board and is CEO of the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation (NACCHO), the peak body for Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisations (ACCHOs). Information about the Sir Roland Wilson Pat Turner Scholarship is available on the ANU’s website.

In this episode, we play a short grab from former health minister Nicola Roxon in 2010 talking about Indigenous health in the context of the Rudd government's response to the National Health and Hospitals Reform Commission. You can find her full quotes here.

Listen Learn Respect is the National Apology Foundation’s motto – and the name of this podcast. The not-for-profit foundation was set up after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd left politics to monitor progress in Closing the Gap between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. In this series of Listen, Learn, Respect, host and National Apology Foundation co-chair Jessica Rudd takes a closer look at some of these targets with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are working to close the gap. We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which we work – the Turrbal and Jagera peoples – and the Traditional Owners of the lands you are listening on. Feedback: info@nationalapology.org.au

Credits Host: Jessica Rudd. Executive Producer: Melanie Arnost. Music: Tioli by RONA. Recording: River City Studios. Audio grabs courtesy: Seven Network, Australian News Channel & Reconciliation Australia.