In this Chopper Chat edition of the I Hate Insurance Podcast, Rick J. Lindsey takes to the skies with Nafe Latu, co-founder and owner of Freedom Golf Retreat. As they fly over the Utah mountains, they share a candid, unscripted conversation about trust, character, and why business—especially in the insurance world—needs more face-to-face relationships and fewer scripted policies.

Rick reflects on why he prefers to work with people he's played golf with, how leadership shows up in everyday actions, and why the traditional insurance model has lost its soul. Through admiration for Nafe’s consistency, personality, and integrity, Rick delivers a powerful message about doing business with people who show you who they are—on the golf course and beyond.

If you’ve ever sat through a soul-sucking insurance meeting, share this with someone who gets it. This episode pulls back the curtain on today’s broken insurance model—and why restoring trust and relationships is the future of underwriting.

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In This Episode You'll Learn:

• What most people get wrong about the insurance industry

• How personal branding can lead to real impact and influence

• Why insurance should be about relationships, not fine print

• The value of going "outside the box" in business and risk management

• How Rick’s approach challenges conventional industry norms

• And much more…

Guest Bio:

Nafe Latu is a serial entrepreneur and connector with a passion for personal branding and authentic leadership. He is the founder of The Unbroken Community and co-founder of Freedom Golf Retreat, Fresh Fade Away Barbershop, Carve Construction, and The Beauty University. Known for his dynamic energy and visionary thinking, Nafe brings together top-tier professionals and thought leaders to create meaningful growth experiences. At the helm of Freedom Golf Retreat, he fosters a culture of innovation and community that inspires transformation in both personal and professional spheres.

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