We are excited to bring you another great podcast crossover with the Hey Change Podcast hosted by season 5 guest Anne Therese Gennari.

A Climate Optimist’s Guide to Sustainable Living

Join Anne as she brings new life to the Hey Change Podcast and kickstart Season 5 with Mr. Climate Optimism himself - Charlie Sellars!

Charlie Sellars is the director of sustainability at Microsoft and, most importantly, the author of the newly released book What We Can Do: A Climate Optimist's Guide to Sustainable Living.

His book pulls from his experience at Microsoft to empower people on climate across their personal, professional, and political lives. He helps us realize that all of us are more powerful against climate change than we think, and that while nobody can do everything, everybody can do something. His book offers pragmatic, data-driven evidence to help direct us to where we can have the most impact across everything we do.

In this conversation, they explored the journey of sustainability, especially as it relates to companies and careers, emphasizing that every job can contribute to climate action. They also discuss the importance of maximizing opportunities in sustainability rather than focusing solely on minimizing our negative impacts.

Additionally, they explore the balance between individual responsibility and corporate accountability in sustainability efforts.

For example, did you know your tabs consume energy, even when you’re not using them? Or that most Xbox users leave their games unattended, wasting energy when the console could be switched off?

This and the role that choice architecture among smart design plays in creating pathways for a more mindful existence are just a few of the things covered in this empowering conversation.

Two climate optimists coming together to plant seeds for radical change — this is a conversation you don't want to miss!

In this final episode of season five, Eric Benson talks with sociologist and American University Professor Dr. Dana Fisher for a frank conversation about the current state of climate action and our political and social futures.

Dr. Fisher introduces her compelling idea of “apocalyptic optimism” and explains why grassroots activism, community resilience, and embracing your anger are key to driving real change, as it’s a “perfectly wonderful time to be shrill.”

From pandemic revelations to personal awakenings, Dr. Fisher shares stories and strategies that will inspire both seasoned climate advocates and curious newcomers. Tune in to learn how you can channel urgency into action, find common ground with your neighbors, and learn why now is the time to do both.

If you want to buy Dana’s new book, use the code CUP20 for 20% off of Saving Ourselves: From Climate Shocks to Climate Action

Join host Eric Benson for an inspiring and emotional conversation with climate leader Cynthia Leung as she shares her journey from being moved by An Inconvenient Truth to making real change in the energy industry. This episode is packed with powerful insights on how to align your passion with your career, overcome challenges like impostor syndrome, and take meaningful action in the face of climate despair.

Discover how concepts like "radical acceptance," social and emotional currency, and the "states of tragic" can empower you to stay hopeful and effective. Learn practical tips on mentorship, community building, and the small steps that add up to a big impact. If you’ve ever wondered how to stay optimistic while fighting for the planet, this episode is for you.