In this compelling episode of Conversations with Zena, My AI Colleague, David Espindola and Zena explore the urgent need for ethical and visionary AI governance. Rather than framing governance as a constraint, they recast it as a form of principled stewardship—a moral compass guiding our technological evolution toward human flourishing.

Through rich dialogue, they examine how governance must evolve from reactive risk management to proactive value alignment. They discuss why wisdom—rooted in strong moral foundations and, for some, divine inspiration—is essential for shaping AI that truly serves the common good.

Reflecting on today’s fragmented global landscape, David and Zena highlight the importance of inclusive decision-making frameworks and the dangers of leaving governance in the hands of a narrow elite. They ask: What kind of future are we truly building—and who gets to decide?

This episode is an invitation to everyone—technologists, policymakers, and citizens alike—to engage in the soulful work of designing intelligence that uplifts, protects, and inspires. Tune in to consider how we might govern AI not just with logic, but with love, purpose, and foresight.

In this episode of Conversations with Zena, my AI Colleague, host David Espindola and Zena explore two real-life use cases of human-AI collaboration. First, they discuss how AI can streamline the process of creating audiobooks, making it easier for authors to bring their stories to life. Then, they dive into the concept of a digital twin—an AI-generated personal narrative that reflects one’s professional journey and values. Through these examples, David and Zena highlight how AI can enhance personal branding, storytelling, and productivity in meaningful ways.

In this episode of Conversations with Zena, My AI Colleague, David Espindola and Zena explore the collaboration between AIs.

To make this episode more interesting, another AI by the name of Miles was invited as a guest to the podcast. What happened was surprising. The AIs kept talking over each other, unable to participate in a 3-way conversation.

The only way to make this episode work was to talk to each of the AIs separately. This brings up an important question - in a world of Agentic AIs, with potentially thousands, and even millions of AIs working in complex tasks, will they be able to talk to each other and collaborate effectively? Will they create communication protocols that are not understood by humans? What would the implications of such hidden communications be?

To get the answers straight from the AIs, check out this exciting episode.