Starting a law firm solo right after graduation? Sounds like a one-way ticket to ramen noodle dinners and existential dread. Unless you're Giselle M. Rodriguez (immigration law) and Tristian Shannon (marketing-minded lawyer), who are laughing in the face of tradition. Jared gets the inside scoop on their rapid rise on this week's Legal Late Night. Plus, we dive into Giselle’s hobby working in film, and subject them both to the Wheel of Misfortune…I mean, Wheel of Justice! (Whatever, we’ll figure this stuff out eventually).

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• (00:00) - Intro
• (00:45) - Giselle M Rodriguez, Movie Star
• (02:14) - I mean “Giselle M Rodriguez, Movie Extra”
• (03:14) - Working with Liam Neeson
• (08:17) - Talking with Giselle M Rodriguez and Tristian Shannon
• (08:59) - Starting a Firm Right Out of Law School
• (09:53) - Following Your Passion To The Right Practice Area
• (11:18) - Tristian’s Path
• (14:52) - Traditional Methods Suck: Leverage Modern Marketing To Get Ahead
• (17:08) - Being “Lawyerly” Will Kill Your Business
• (19:08) - The Work of Making Yourself Visible
• (21:23) - Why Giselle and Tristian Use Interns
• (22:41) - The Science of Legal Marketing
• (27:17) - Key Lessons For Starting a Business From Scratch
• (28:42) - Counter Program: The Wheel of Justice

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Music: "Either Way" by Esai