In this episode of Future Secured, Tom Finnigan and Jason Murrell sit down with Ian Yip, founder of Avertro — a platform that bridges the gap between cybersecurity operations and executive governance.

Together, they explore:

• Why cybersecurity still isn't treated as a business priority.
• The rise of “reasonable steps” as a legal standard for boards.
• How Singapore is outpacing Australia in national cyber readiness.
• What founders need to know before launching in the U.S.
• Why RSA is more than a conference — it’s a battleground for visibility.

This is a candid and insightful discussion about cyber leadership, regulation, government shortfalls, and the culture shifts needed to secure Australia’s digital future.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• Cybersecurity is a business advantage — if it’s built from day one.
• Regulation is often the only driver of security investment.
• “Reasonable steps” is fast becoming a legal and board-level standard.
• Government funding sends cultural signals — and right now, cyber isn’t a vote-winner.
• National cyber drills (like Singapore's) show what's possible without big budgets.
• Startups must be assertive, focused, and physically present in the U.S. to win market trust.
• RSA is overwhelming — but the right prep unlocks outsized value.

📢 Sound Bites:

⏱ Chapters:

00:00 – Welcome & Ian’s Background
02:52 – Building Avertro from the Boardroom Up
06:02 – Why “Reasonable Steps” Now Matter
09:04 – Cybersecurity as Legal & Leadership Risk
14:52 – Culture, Policy & the Missing Federal Budget Signal
20:00 – What Singapore Got Right: A National Cyber Drill
26:00 – What Australia Still Gets Wrong: Siloed Government
29:30 – RSA Prep: How to Get the Most from San Francisco
36:00 – Breaking into the U.S. Market as an Aussie Startup
42:00 – Community, Credibility, and the Power of Showing Up

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