Shame is more than a passing emotion—it’s a deep-rooted belief that whispers, “I am the problem.”

In this powerful conversation, Elly and Isa are joined by guest Christian counselor and couples coach Jeffrey Warner—a breakout leader from the A Better Way Conference—as they explore how shame creates invisible walls that block love, connection, and emotional intimacy.

Together, they unpack:
✔️ What shame-based thinking looks like in everyday life
✔️ How shame sabotages relationships—even with the best intentions
✔️ Why spiritual growth requires action, not just prayer
✔️ How faith, therapy, and self-awareness work together to dismantle shame

This is Part 1 of a deeply honest and hopeful dialogue that explores the emotional and spiritual roots of shame—and what it takes to start healing from the inside out.

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