In this episode of Holy Heartbreak Podcast, Ryan Dawn Holland sits down with therapist, podcaster, and spiritual mentor Kyle Spears to talk about seeking spiritual maturity both in and out of the church. Together, they unpack the tension between needing therapy and spiritual guidance.

This conversation gets real about:

• When scripture gets weaponized
• What emotionally healthy mentorship really looks like (and how to be a good advisor)
• Why trauma-informed discipleship is essential
• How to find a safe spiritual mentor who won’t try to “fix” you
• And why doing the work—in therapy and in faith—is a vital part of maturing in Christ

Whether you’ve been burned by bad advice, manipulated with Bible verses, or just want to grow into a healthier spiritual life, this episode will help you start unpacking what healing can actually look like. 🔗 Check out Kyle Spears' podcast, Truth, Trauma, Theology → ⁠https://truthtraumatheology.podbean.com/⁠ (or wherever you get your podcasts!!)

In this episode, Ryan Dawn sits down with Pastor and author Matt Walker Thrift to dive deep into the overlooked but fiery book of Obadiah. What starts as a story about an ancient nation’s downfall becomes a mirror—showing us what pride, silence, and spiritual complacency can still do today.

Together, they explore how Edom’s pride became the gateway to injustice, how unchecked ego leads to complicity, and why God’s wrath is actually a radical act of love:

1. A defense of the oppressed
2. A warning to all of us who might become the oppressor

This conversation takes a sharp, honest look at fallen leadership, spiritual pride, and the danger of standing by instead of speaking up—but it doesn’t leave us there. It also offers the hope of humility, community, and a God who invites us to do better.

If you’ve ever wrestled with injustice, spiritual disillusionment, or your own complicity in silence, this one’s for you.

For more, pre-order Pastor Matt Walker Thrift's book “Enemies of the Heart: What the Forgotten Prophet Teaches us About Bitterness, Betrayal, and God’s Justice” ⁠here⁠.

In this heartfelt conversation, Liz Sevigny (@thebald_mom) shares her journey with alopecia, discussing the emotional and spiritual challenges she has faced. From her initial diagnosis at age 12 to the profound impact of hair loss on her self-image and faith, Liz opens up about her struggles and the turning points that led her to share her story online. She emphasizes the importance of community support, vulnerability, and finding confidence beyond physical appearance. Liz also reflects on her relationship with God, and how she processed unanswered prayers and a lack of "physical healing."