Hosted by longtime friends Montel Vontavious Porter (MVP) and Houston-based rapper & songwriter Dwayne Swayze, Marking Out takes you inside the world of professional wrestling like never before. In this episode, MVP breaks down the politics, psychology, and professionalism behind losing a match in pro wrestling—and why it’s not always a bad thing. From taking losses to elevate the Hurt Business to being buried during a months-long doghouse stint in WWE, MVP shares raw insight on how ego, timing, and storyline shape outcomes behind the curtain.

He unpacks the misunderstood terms “jobber” and “burial,” reveals how being booked to lose can actually turn a heel into a babyface, and opens up about the infamous Undertaker–Brock Lesnar streak ending. With stories about working with MJF, Chris Jericho, and Cody Rhodes, MVP reveals how real pros navigate match changes, protect their credibility, and play the long game.

From chaotic last-minute finishes to the art of improvisation on live TV, this episode also explores how real-time changes—like Vince McMahon changing outcomes seconds before airtime—separate workers from stars. MVP shares behind-the-scenes gems from matches with Cody Rhodes, tag-team storytelling with Matt Hardy, and legendary road stories that never made it to TV.

All with raw, unfiltered insight from one of the most respected veterans in the business.

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This episode is a must-listen for wrestling fans who want to go beyond WWE and AEW’s scripted world and hear firsthand from one of the industry’s most respected veterans.

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About Marking Out with MVP and Dwayne Swayze:

Marking Out is a weekly wrestling podcast hosted by longtime friends Montel Vontavious Porter (MVP)—a professional wrestling veteran with over 20 years in the business—and Dwayne Swayze, a rapper with a deep love for the sport. Every Monday, MVP pulls back the curtain on pro wrestling, breaking down its history, behind-the-scenes moments, and the psychology that makes it all work. With firsthand experience in the ring, he shares unfiltered insight, legendary road stories, and deep dives into promos, match strategy, and the business behind the spectacle. No topic is off-limits. Subscribe for real talk, real stories, and a fresh perspective on the world of professional wrestling.