In this 41st episode of Charting Change in Legal, Caroline Hill, Editor and Publisher of Legal IT Insider, and I discussed value-based billing, driving firmwide innovation, and cultivating a willingness to be engaged.

I was lucky to have many great conversations with industry leaders at the 2025 CLOC (Corporate Legal Operations Consortium) Global Institute, which I captured in this #ReinventingProfessionals #Mixtape 😀 Thanks to the following participants for sharing their insights: 🎙️ David Blazejewski (David Blaze), Chief Revenue Officer, TruthOrLie.ai 🎙️ Tim Brady, CEO, Colligo 🎙️ Laurie Ehrlich (she/her), Chief Legal Officer, Dioptra 🎙️ James Ferguson-Mahan, Enterprise Account Executive, DeepL 🎙️ Kathleen Hoffman, Account Executive, LegalMation 🎙️ Austin Holian, Director of Marketing and Partnerships, Clarra 🎙️ Sam Kidd, CEO, LawVu 🎙️ Bryan Kimes, Director of Legal Operations and Litigation Support, Philip Morris International 🎙️ Jessica King, Vice President of Legal Innovation and Strategic Partnerships, ContractPodAi 🎙️ Henal Patel, CEO, DocJuris 🎙️ Charles Post, Executive Vice President, Cimplifi 🎙️ Tim Prowitt, Head of Sales, PromptArmor 🎙️ Mark Redmayne, Senior Director of Legal Services, TCDI 🎙️ Shaunak Turaga, CEO, Docsum

I spoke with Rick Campbell, the Executive Chairman and CEO of @GROUP, and Matt Winlaw, the CEO and Managing Director of @ID, one of three divisions that includes @DOCS and @SOFT, within @GROUP. We discussed open-source intelligence, why OSINT has become vital to modern legal operations, the blind spots in traditional legal risk models, predictive behavioral AI use cases, and practical ways for legal teams to integrate AI and OSINT without overwhelming their workflows.