In this episode of the Smart Pizza Marketing Podcast, Bruce sits down with Sam and JD from Town Hall Pizza. Hear the remarkable story of how two former pastors with no restaurant experience took over a 50-year-old pizzeria, transformed it with modern systems, and built a thriving business without delivery.

Discover their text marketing blunder that led to record-breaking sales, how they built a loyal vegan following, and the surprising realities of owning a legacy restaurant.

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Just back from the 2024 National Restaurant Association Show in Chicago, Bruce shares every must-know insight for pizza shop owners. From game-changing ovens to underrated tools and marketing mistakes, this Q&A-style episode is packed with value. If you missed the show, don’t worry—we’ve got you covered. Hear what’s trending, what’s worth investing in, and how to make expos like this truly worth your time. Brought to you by Fiero Group and hosted on the Smart Pizza Marketing channel.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Welcome Back & Fiero Group Shoutout
01:04 – 17 Cities, Conveyor Ovens, and Why They Matter
02:50 – Where to Find More Content: YouTube & Podcasts
03:18 – Live from the Restaurant Expo in Chicago
04:40 – Size of the Show: Overwhelming but Worth It
06:22 – Navigating the Expo Like a Pro
08:28 – Why Pizza Shops Finally Belong at the Big Table
10:01 – Emerging Pizza Trends: Automation, AI, & Tech
11:35 – What Are Operators Wasting Money On?
13:01 – Social Media Myths & Storytelling Truths
15:00 – Slice's Underrated Phone Ordering Service
18:32 – Networking Like a Human at a Massive Expo
20:30 – Food Trends: Vegan Meats, Sourdough, & Smart Menus
25:00 – The Worst Phone Greeting in the Pizza Biz
26:30 – Stop Trying to Be Funny on Social Media
28:00 – Platforms That Actually Work: TikTok & YouTube
30:39 – Why YouTube Content Lasts Forever
32:10 – Geo-Targeting with TikTok: Real Results
33:52 – Best Expo Tip: Go with a Plan
36:58 – Bonus Finds: Bluetooth Scale, Table Stabilizer
38:24 – Thanks, Show Wrap-Up, and What’s Next

Most pizzerias don't fail because of bad pizza or a bad location — they fail because of what happens (or doesn’t happen) behind the scenes. In this no-fluff video, Bruce shares the real reasons pizza shops struggle, and what successful operators are doing differently.

Whether you're just getting started or feel stuck in the daily grind, this video will show you exactly how to build systems, lead better, and grow with clarity. Plus, Bruce gives a preview of what you’ll gain at the National Restaurant Show.

👥 For pizza shop owners, operators, and anyone dreaming of running their own spot — this is a must-watch.

🎟️ Join Bruce at the National Restaurant Show
🗓️ May 17–20 in Chicago
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Bruce hits the streets of Dallas to uncover how real pizzeria owners are surviving (and thriving) in 2025. From $10K store launches to no-walk-in operations and humbling failures, this episode is PACKED with real advice and behind-the-scenes strategy. Thinking of opening your own pizza shop? Start here.

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Chapters:00:00 - Intro & Purpose of the Trip
00:38 - National Restaurant Show Preview (May 17–20)
02:16 - Overview of Dallas Pizza Tour
03:00 - Type 1 vs Type 2 Fun: The Pizza Shop Owner Mindset
04:29 - Why Bruce Is Thinking About Opening Again
05:07 - Going Tactical: Real Data from Real Shops
06:05 - ZaLat Pizza: 29 Locations, $10K Buildouts
08:14 - Jay’s Empire: Cane Rosso & Wood-Fired Insights
10:32 - Pizzeria Karina: Bread-Maker to Pizza Pro
12:52 - GapCo: Lessons from Expansion & Retraction
15:36 - Normalize One-Shop Success
17:17 - Upcoming Trips & Final Thoughts

In this episode, Bruce shares a raw and honest reflection on 10 years of podcasting and what he’s learned from talking to pizza shop owners all over the country.

Whether you're new to the business or have 20 years under your belt, this is the mindset advice you need to hear. Plus, a preview of the National Restaurant Association Show and some behind-the-scenes updates on Smart Pizza Marketing and Pizza Insider.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Intro & National Restaurant Show Invitation
Details on why you should join Bruce in Chicago this May.

00:41 – What You’ll Get from Attending the Show
Latest tech, gear, networking, and trends for pizzeria operators.

01:25 – 10 Years of Podcasting: How It Started
Bruce opens up about his early doubts and what kept him going.

02:33 – No One Has It All Figured Out
A powerful realization about every pizza operator—no matter the level.

03:14 – What Success Really Means in the Pizza Business
It’s not followers or praise. It’s something much simpler.

04:00 – Dealing with Chaos in the Shop
A reminder that breakdowns, no-shows, and complaints are part of the game.

04:45 – Taking Time to Appreciate How Far You’ve Come
Bruce’s personal struggle with appreciating his own progress.

05:25 – Your Monday Motivation
A pep talk for operators feeling overwhelmed or underappreciated.

06:19 – How Bruce Wants to Help You
From podcasts to videos—here’s where to find support and advice.

07:07 – Behind the Scenes: Pizza Insider with Vincent Rotolo
What it was like filming in Vegas and why this episode stood out.

08:08 – New Content Ideas: Visiting Pizzerias IRL
Bruce shares a new content idea and asks for your feedback.

09:23 – Wrap-Up & How You Can Help Shape Future Episodes
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New In this solo episode, Bruce shares raw insights on working with influencers in the pizza business world. He reflects on a shocking conversation about influencer rates ($4,500?!) and breaks down a smarter, performance-based model for partnerships. Plus, get updates on upcoming content from the Pizza Expo and find out why Bruce is seriously considering opening another pizza shop.

Chapters:

00:00 – Intro + Pizza Expo Plans
00:29 – Sponsor Shoutout: Cheese Hog Machine
01:28 – Why Shredded Cheese > Pre-Shredded Cheese
02:12 – Hosting the "How You Slice It" Podcast
02:35 – The Influencer Dilemma: Are They Worth It?
03:34 – The $4,500 Influencer Offer
04:20 – The Real ROI of Influencer Marketing
05:11 – A Smarter Influencer Deal Structure
06:12 – The Hidden Labor of Content Creation
07:22 – Performance-Based Influencer Contracts
08:10 – Views Don’t Equal Customers
08:54 – Final Thoughts + Should I Open a Pizza Shop?episode

This episode is packed with insights from Lisa at the National Restaurant Show and Tom, the culinary director at Papa John’s. We break down how large restaurant chains like Papa John’s create family-friendly menus, innovate new products, and maintain consistency across thousands of locations. Plus, we talk about what you need to know before attending the National Restaurant Show this May in Chicago.

Use promo code BRUCE25 for $25 off your ticket (expires May 9). Details and links are below!

👇 Chapters 👇
00:00 – Intro: Meet Lisa and Tom
00:25 – What Is the National Restaurant Show?
01:03 – Why Menu Consistency Is So Hard (and How Big Chains Do It)
02:15 – Tom's Secrets to Appealing to Multi-Generational Families
05:48 – How Papa John’s Innovates Products
09:32 – The Challenge of Scaling Menu Ideas Across Locations
13:40 – How Independent Restaurants Can Improve Consistency
18:02 – Planning Your Visit to the National Restaurant Show
22:20 – Tools and Apps That Help You Navigate the Show
27:45 – Final Tips for Restaurant Owners Attending the Show
32:05 – Wrap-Up & Promo Code Info

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📅 Dates: May 17–20, 2025
📍 Location: Chicago, IL

Join Bruce from Smart Pizza Marketing in this raw, one-on-one episode where he shares the 9 biggest lessons he learned the hard way over 20 years in the pizza business. Whether you're just starting out or trying to grow your pizzeria, these insights can save you thousands in mistakes, stress, and sleepless nights.

💡 This isn’t theory—this is real advice from someone who’s lived it.

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📍Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction & Why This Episode Matters
01:08 - Shoutout to Mike’s Hot Honey & Branding Lessons
01:37 - The Mission Behind Smart Pizza Marketing
02:18 - Lesson #1: Keep the Menu Simple
03:17 - Lesson #2: Track Every Dollar Like a Maniac
04:43 - Lesson #3: Preventative Maintenance is Non-Negotiable
05:30 - Lesson #4: Pay to Keep Great People
06:23 - Lesson #5: Dominate TikTok & YouTube
07:20 - Lesson #6: Never Stop Improving Your Dough

08:14 - Lesson #7: Remember Why You Started

09:14 - Lesson #8: Everything Feels Unscalable at First

10:08 - Lesson #9: Network Like Your Life Depends On It
12:39 - Why Ed Started the Podcast & Final Thoughts