What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention?

In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence.

Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them.

Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest.

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We Explore: 🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout 🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need? 🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night 🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts ⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”) 🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day 🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them 🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it

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About Katie LaCelle: Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they already carry within. She specializes in working with high achievers, people pleasers, and caretakers—especially those navigating burnout or struggling with sleep. Katie regularly assists with IFS Institute trainings and is currently pursuing her Somatic Experiencing Practitioner certification. Her work blends deep nervous system support with compassionate parts work to create lasting, embodied change.

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Learn More & Connect with Katie: 🧘 IFS for Insomnia Course: cressanallc.com/about-insomnia-course 📸 Instagram: @cressanallc 🌐 Website: www.cressanallc.com

Tune in for a gentle, eye-opening conversation on what it really means to rest—and how befriending our sleepless parts might be the first step.

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What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work?

In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we talk about what it’s like to prepare for these powerful sessions, working with the parts that hold fear or doubt, and what can unfold when you surrender to the healing process.

Steph and Craig open up about their unique experiences—both as individuals and as a couple. Craig describes a peaceful, heart-opening session, while Steph shares a more challenging journey that offered deep insight and emotional release. We also discuss the phenomenon of “redo” experiences—moments when the body and psyche reprocess past events in a new, healing way.

Whether you're curious about MDMA therapy, IFS, or simply how couples can grow together through conscious exploration, this episode offers powerful takeaways about trust, safety, and self-discovery.

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Topics We Discuss: - The preparation process for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy - Working with parts that feel fear, resistance, or uncertainty - Steph and Craig’s individual MDMA journeys—peaceful vs. intense - “Redo” experiences that can arise in altered states of healing - The role of integration and meaning-making after the session - How MDMA therapy deepened their connection as a couple - Why emotional safety is foundational for psychedelic healing - IFS as a guiding framework before, during, and after sessions

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About Steph & Craig: Steph and Craig are the hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, a podcast that explores healing, emotional growth, spirituality, and the beautiful messiness of being human. Through honest conversations, personal stories, and soulful insights, they help listeners feel seen, supported, and inspired on their own inner journeys.

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Connect with Steph & Craig: 🌐 Website: stephandcraig.co 📺 YouTube: @stephandcraig 📘 Facebook: Steph and Craig 📸 Instagram: @steph.and.craig 🎵 TikTok: @stephandcraig 📰 Substack: Steph & Craig on Substack

🎧 Tune in for an honest, intimate look at what happens when healing gets real—and you choose to walk the path together.

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Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/

Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact

Instagram: @nataliedeering

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