Episodios

  • Ep 25 | CX Insider: Phil on Sales Engineers
    May 23 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete talk to Phil about his extensive experience in sales engineering. He emphasizes the evolution of the sales engineer's role, the importance of understanding customer needs, and the critical nature of collaboration with product management. The conversation also covers the significance of demos, navigating RFPs, and the training and development of sales engineers. Phil shares valuable insights and pearls of wisdom for those in the sales engineering field.

    Takeaways

    • Understanding customer needs is crucial for effective sales.
    • Demos should be tailored to the customer's specific requirements.
    • Building relationships with customers is key to success.
    • Collaboration with sellers and product management is vital for sales engineers.
    • Training and developing sales engineers is an ongoing process.
    • Listening and asking the right questions can lead to better outcomes.
    • The sales engineering landscape is changing with the introduction of new technologies.

    Keywords

    customer engagement, sales engineering, demos, RFPs, product management, training, sales relationships, customer needs, sales process, technology

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    39 m
  • Ep 24 | The Outbound Odyssey
    May 16 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete discuss the evolution and current state of dialers in CX and contact centers. They cover a bit of background, the various modes of dialing, the impact of digital channels on customer communication, and the integration of outbound voice and digital strategies to enhance customer experience. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding regulations and the need for a seamless customer journey across different communication channels.

    Takeaways

    • Dialers are still very relevant in customer engagement strategies.
    • Digital channels are becoming the default for customer interactions.
    • Asynchronous message channels see higher engagement rates than voice calls.
    • Voice communication remains the go-to for urgent matters.
    • It’s not about “what channel?”, but “how do you use them all together?"
    • Successful outbound uses a digital first approach
    • Digital channels + outbound voice could make the inbound CC obsolete.

    Keywords

    Customer Engagement, Dialler, Dialers, Digital Channels, Customer Experience, Outbound Calls, Predictive Dialling, Dialing, Voice Communication, Asynchronous Messaging, Customer Satisfaction, CX

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  • Ep 23 | AI Business Benefit: Is it Here Yet?
    May 9 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete look at the impact AI is really having on the CX industry and people, jobs and the customer experience. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of current capabilities and the challenges faced in data management and legal considerations. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of a strategic approach to AI in customer engagement encompassing employee training and cultural change.

    Takeaways

    • Evidence of AI delivering significant business benefit is still hard to find.
    • A lot of vendor claims seem unrealistic and lack context.
    • Study shows no clear evidence of AI reducing labour costs.
    • Businesses see more benefits when employers encourage AI use.
    • A strategic approach to AI is necessary for real benefits.
    • Training and cultural change will drive effective adoption of AI tools.
    • Understanding current state is crucial for accurate ROI predictions for AI.
    • Data quality is a significant challenge for AI deployment.
    • Many organisations see security and privacy as the top challenge in AI deployment.

    Keywords

    customer engagement, CFO, financial metrics, ROI, project viability, compliance, opportunity cost, resource allocation, business case, customer experience

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    29 m
  • Ep 22 | Sign-off: The CFO
    May 2 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete focus on the critical role of CFOs in evaluating business proposals. The conversation highlights the need for CX and Contact Centre sellers to articulate their proposals in a way that resonates with financial stakeholders, ensuring that all aspects of a project are thoroughly considered before seeking approval.

    Takeaways

    • Highlight Strategic Alignment: Clearly demonstrate how the project aligns with the organization's strategic objectives (e.g., market expansion, operational efficiency, or innovation) and delivers measurable business value.
    • Emphasize Financial Viability: Provide a detailed financial analysis, including ROI, TCO, payback period, and potential cost savings or efficiency gains. Ensure assumptions are realistic and supported by data.
    • Address Risks and Mitigation: Outline key risks (financial, operational, or market) and provide robust mitigation strategies. Projects with an acceptable risk profile and clear contingency plans are more likely to be approved.
    • Show Scalability and Long-term Benefits: Demonstrate how the project positions the company for future growth, supports scalability, and adapts to evolving market or technological trends.
    • Consider Stakeholder Perspectives: Incorporate insights from the CEO (strategic vision), CIO (technological feasibility and security), and other key stakeholders to present a well-rounded case that addresses all critical evaluation criteria.

    Keywords

    customer engagement, CFO, financial metrics, ROI, project viability, compliance, opportunity cost, resource allocation, business case, customer experience

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  • Ep 21 | CX Insider: Terry on the RFP Game
    Apr 25 2025

    Summary

    In this conversation, Terry shares his extensive experience in CX and Contact Centre sales, particularly in the public sector. He discusses the differences between public and private sector sales, the intricacies of the RFP process, and the importance of understanding the bidding landscape. Terry emphasizes the need for honesty in the procurement process and the significance of social value in public sector contracts. He also categorizes different types of RFPs and shares insights on how to navigate the tender process effectively.

    Takeaways

    • Most public sector procurements try to get the best for their organisation.
    • The public sector sales process is structured but challenging.
    • Understanding the cost gate is crucial in public sector bidding.
    • The average success rate for cold tenders is between 7-8%.
    • Not all public procurement processes are fair and transparent.
    • RFPs often includes poorly articulated and unrealistic requirements.
    • Engaging in early market conversations can influence procurement processes.
    • Honesty in the tender process can lead to better outcomes for all parties.
    • Social value is a critical component of public sector contracts.
    • May the 4th should be a national holiday for Star Wars fans.

    Keywords

    customer experience, public sector, sales, RFP, bidding process, social value, procurement, tender process, business development, honesty

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    43 m
  • Ep 20 | The Devil is in the Discovery
    Apr 11 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete, focus on the discovery process in sales. They discuss the importance of understanding customer pain points, engaging multiple stakeholders, and the role of technology and AI in enhancing customer experience. The conversation emphasizes the need for thoughtful questioning and effective stakeholder management to ensure successful outcomes in sales processes.

    Takeaways

    • Discovery is not just one step; it's everywhere in the sales process.
    • Ask thoughtful questions that encourage the buyer to think differently.
    • Engage with multiple stakeholders to gather diverse insights.
    • Understand the customer's current state and pain points thoroughly.
    • Define future goals to align solutions with customer needs.
    • Pay attention to current attitudes to AI and cultural factors.
    • Start discovery with a focus on reporting and analytics.
    • Stakeholder management is key to successful discovery.
    • Pre- and post-sales discovery findings should be tied in to each other.

    Keywords

    customer engagement, discovery process, sales strategy, customer experience, stakeholder management, AI in CX, contact center metrics, reporting, customer pain points, technology in sales

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    31 m
  • Ep 19 | CX Insider: Dan on Service Levels & Perils
    Apr 4 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete talk to CX Insider Dan, a seasoned expert in contact centres and customer experience operations management. They discuss the evolution of customer service, especially in the post-COVID landscape. They explore the challenges faced by customer service operations, the impact of data transparency, the importance of agent wellness and the role of leadership in fostering a supportive work environment. Dan shares valuable insights on how businesses can improve their customer service strategies by understanding employee needs to drive performance.

    You can see more about Dan, read his articles and contact him here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piperdaniel/

    Takeaways

    • The COVID-19 pandemic has drastically changed customer service expectations. It’s made customers less demanding, and many businesses are still hiding in the customer service fog of the pandemic.
    • Data transparency within businesses is essential for making challenges visible and gaining stakeholder support.
    • Agent wellness is crucial for maintaining effective customer service operations.
    • Performance in customer service is driven by behaviour, not data.
    • Technology should enhance human interaction, not replace it.
    • Leadership must be involved in fostering a supportive work environment.
    • Don’t even think about throwing technology at a problem before you have optimised your processes and your people.

    Keywords

    customer engagement, CX, technology, analysts, customer experience, AI, market trends, industry insights, innovation, business strategy

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    41 m
  • Ep 18 | On Your Marks. Get Set. Demo!
    Mar 28 2025

    In this episode, Angus and Pete focus on the critical role of demos in the buying process. They discuss various types of demos, their appropriate applications, and the importance of tailoring presentations to the audience. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective communication, storytelling, and understanding the buyer's journey to enhance customer experience and drive sales success.

    Takeaways

    • Demos are tools, not destinations.
    • Demos are valid at all stages of the buying process.
    • Know which type of demo to use at the right time.
    • Understand your audience and tailor your message accordingly.
    • Make demos interactive and relatable.
    • Use real-world examples and storytelling to engage buyers.
    • Focus on pain points during sales demos.
    • Prepare thoroughly before conducting a demo.
    • Every feature should tie back to a business pain.
    • Demos can drive adoption and optimization post-sale.
    • It’s a demo not a training course!

    Keywords

    customer engagement, sales demos, technical demos, customer experience, demo types, sales process, buyer journey, training, stakeholder management, storytelling

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    32 m
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