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This week, we are continuing our recap of the CIRSx 2025 conference! Today, we are focusing on the treatment talks:

Understanding the Pitfalls of Tick Borne Testing with Christian Navarro Torres, PhD, CIRS Lab Finding the Tick-Borne Needle in the Haystack: Tick Borne Infections in CIRS Patients with Peg DiTulio, DNP, APRN Diagnosing Lyme and Co-infections: An Investigation of the Availability, Diversity and Validity of the Current Testing with Dr. Laura Varga, DAOM Air Oasis EdTalk with Brad Baxter, COO A Unifying Theory of Neurodegeneration with Dr. Dale Bredesen The Actinobacteria Reduction Study: Making Life Easier for the CIRS Community with Eric Dorninger, ND, LAc Brain Injury in CIRS: From Specific Causation to a Unique Transcriptomic Fingerprint in Parkinson's with Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker The Principles of Body Typing as a Critical Tool for CIRS Success with Erin Livers , BA, ICNT Evidence-based Diagnoses and Strategies for the CIRS Microbiome with Dr. Lacey Venazi

For more information and support, visit us at our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 00:45 Tick-Borne testing insights by Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Laura Varga 09:02 AirOasis ED Talk by Brad Baxter 11:19 Dr. Dale Bredesen's Keynote on Alzheimer's and Neurodegeneration 15:46 Actinobacteria Reduction Study by Dr. Eric Dorninger 18:20 Dr. Shoemaker's Talk on Parkinson's Research 20:45 Principles of Body Typing for Nutrition by Nutritionist Erin Livers 23:23 CIRS and the Gut Microbiome by Dr. Lacey Venazi 27:41 Conclusion and Additional Resources

Helpful links/info: CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/ Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres' website: https://www.cirslab.com/ Dr. Peg DiTulio's website: https://regenixhealing.com/ Dr. Laura Varga: https://www.instagram.com/thejupiterapproach/ or email her at TheJupiterApproach@gmail.com Air Oasis website: https://www.airoasis.com/ Dr. Dale Bredesen's website: https://www.apollohealthco.com/dr-bredesen/ The Flow Free game Jacie plays: https://www.bgames.com/game/flow-free-online/ Our last CIRSx recap episode: https://youtu.be/0aLD_1ixWXU?si=5-DxFVxgy7dleux3 Dr. Eric Dorninger's website: https://drdorninger.com/ Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's website: https://www.survivingmold.com/ Erin Livers' website: https://foodasnourishment.com/ Dr. Abravanel's Body Type Diet and Lifetime Nutrition Plan: https://a.co/d/g6Z1bP7 Dr. Lacey Venazi's website: https://www.drlacey.org/

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Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, visit us at our NEW website! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie reflect on their experience at the CIRSx 2025 conference in Tempe, AZ. They discuss highlights from the event, including impactful talks on tick-borne illnesses, brain health with Dr. Dale Bredesen, and insights on the gut microbiome by Dr. Lacey. They'll also discuss their own talk at the conference and how travel can be tough on a CIRS patient. For more information and support, visit us at our NEW website! https://www.thecirsgroup.com

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction and disclaimer 00:33 CIRSx 2025 Highlights 02:07 Proficiency Partner Program Changes 04:13 Dr. Shoemaker's Triumphant Return 05:18 Unexpected Shoey Award 07:14 Barbara and Jacie's Talk at CIRSx 07:48 Jacie's Health Scare 13:08 The Takeaways from our Talk 17:12 Acknowledging the Challenges of CIRS Practitioners 18:13 Validating Your Decision to Stay Home 18:57 Managing Chronic Illness and Exposure 21:42 Travel and Health Management Strategies 25:24 Conference Highlights and Talks

Check out our episode on Jacie's upcoming move (renter / moving tips) : https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=-yuW1mu6UDJ5I3fl

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara delve into what exactly Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome or CIRS looks like. CIRS manifests in various ways depending on the individual and it's important to recognize the symptoms. The episode covers the genetic aspect of CIRS, the myriad of symptoms it can cause, and its potential connection to autoimmune conditions. They also emphasize the importance of proper diagnosis and treatment, advocating for the prioritization of addressing root causes over mere symptom management. For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

00:00 Introduction and Prepping for CIRSx 01:10 What is CIRS? 01:38 Symptoms and CIRS Diagnosis 02:49 Personal Experiences with CIRS 04:26 CIRS and Autoimmune Conditions 05:25 Conventional Medicine vs. CIRS Treatment 07:50 Common Misdiagnoses 09:18 The Impact of CIRS on Daily Life 12:14 Conclusion and Community Support

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the complexities of Lyme disease and other tick-borne illnesses, and how often these occur among CIRS patients. It also happens to be Lyme Disease Awareness Month! They'll cover important information about tick borne symptoms, testing methods, and treatment approaches.

Common tick borne illnesses include: - Lyme disease, often caused by Borrelia burgdorferi - Tick-Borne Relapsing Fever (TBRF) - Bartonella includes, but is not limited to, Cat Scratch Disease (CSD) and Trench Fever - Babesia, causing babesiosis - Rickettsia, causing rickettsiosis - Ehrlichiosis - Anaplasmosis

Barbara will also share her personal experience with tick-borne illness testing. Additionally, they discuss when to consider testing for Lyme and tick-borne illness, the role of conventional and herbal treatments, and offer practical advice for those seeking medical support. Tune in to learn more and get actionable steps to aid your healing journey. For more information and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com

Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:25 Why CIRS and chronic Tick-Borne Illnesses can happen 03:00 Symptoms of acute and chronic tick borne illness 4:06 Lyme Disease cause and symptoms 05:56 Bartonella or Cat Scratch Fever 7:15 Babesia cause and symptoms 7:47 Other tick borne infections 8:30 Why tick borne illness can come up later in your treatment 9:55 How do you get tick borne illness? 11:55 Who is at risk for getting tick borne illnesses? 13:20 How do you test for Tick-Borne Illnesses? 18:32 Barbara's experience with testing for tick borne illnesses 23:36 When to Consider Testing and Treatment 28:25 Conclusion and join us at TheCIRSGroup.com

HELPFUL LINKS: Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne treatment: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=d_KlC1KMM0rjBEo7 Tick Borne testing options discussed: https://igenex.com/ https://www.mdlab.com/testing/vector-borne/ Labs that will handle special tick blood tests: Any Lab Tests Now: https://www.anylabtestnow.com/ Clinical Pathology Laboratories: https://www.cpllabs.com/

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Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara get into dust testing for mold, discussing personal experiences and sharing expert insights. They highlight different testing methods, including why MSQ-PCR testing is better than other methods, and when to use the ERMI vs the HERSMI-2 test. They'll explain why dust testing is generally more reliable than air sampling. They'll also go over how to do dust collection properly and how to interpret mold test results. Most importantly: Jacie and Barbara recommend working with an Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) to get a comprehensive understanding of your environment and how to properly remediate. None of this is medical advice: always consult your doctor and IEP before making any changes to your treatment plan. For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

00:00 Introduction to Dust Testing 00:49 Different Methods of Mold Testing 02:08 Importance of MSQPCR Testing 02:52 Understanding Mold Species and Air Sampling 05:36 HERTSMI-2 and ERMI Tests 06:54 Additional Tests: Actino and Endotoxins 09:06 When to Test Your Environment 13:14 How to Properly Collect Dust Samples 22:01 Interpreting Your Test Results 24:40 Conclusion and Resources

HELPFUL LINKS: Science behind mold testing: CIRSx talk by Bill Weber: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222/video/955676414 Sequencing of remediation: CIRSx talk by Brandon Apple: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222/video/955676522 ERMI test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/ HERTSMI-2 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/ Our Endotoxin episode: https://youtu.be/O0iKndNzfYA?si=Fe6dJQmF4ZZoutuD Our Actino episode: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM?si=OOdQp6_cgd84wVQ2 Our interview with Michael Schrantz on hiring an IEP: https://youtu.be/_BEwFVdpRcY?si=DsFN5k9SL3qWZMdw Our GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=1B3MIykrvavbbqc6

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dig into which binders ACTUALLY WORK for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) patients. They explain what binders are, how they help in detoxifying the body, and why they are essential for those with a genetic predisposition to CIRS. The episode details the intricacies of the Shoemaker protocol, the various types of binders such as cholestyramine, Welchol, and MycoBind, and their effectiveness. They'll also talk about generic binders like charcoal and clay and why they may not work to successfully treat illness from biotoxins. They also discuss how to properly take binders, manage side effects, and track progress through symptom tracking and blood work analysis. This episode aims to provide valuable insights and practical advice for CIRS patients while stressing the importance of consulting with a certified practitioner for appropriate medical guidance. Join the hosts in demystifying the world of binders and learn how to effectively manage your health journey with CIRS.

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to the CIRS Group Podcast 00:50 What are binders? 03:49 Why Shoemaker endorsed binders are best 04:53 How to choose the Right Binder 10:34 How to Take Binders Effectively 15:52 Tracking Progress and Final Thoughts

HELPFUL LINKS Research showing -azoles potentially causing brain atrophy: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/TDM_metabolism_9_24_2020.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/MRA_2_25_21_FINAL_Health_Risk_Assessments_from_Water_Damaged_Buildings_2_.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/BIBLIO_FUNGICIDE_RESISTANCE_MECHANSIMS_01_09_10.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10024029/

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

Welcome to another episode of the CIRS Group podcast with Jacie and Barbara! In this episode, we delve into nutrition strategies to support healing from Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). We'll tackle the importance of personalized diets, the role of a nutrition coach versus a nutritionist, and guidelines from the Shoemaker Protocol. Key topics include the benefits of a carnivore diet, the challenges of leptin resistance, and addressing issues like inflammation, histamine/MCAS, and food sensitivities. We'll also touch on the complexities of gut health, vitamin deficiencies, and adapting dietary strategies based on individual needs. Remember, none of this is medical advice, and it's crucial to consult your own healthcare provider before making any dietary changes. For more information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 00:57 Understanding Nutrition for CIRS 02:33 Shoemaker's Recommendations 04:01 Exploring the Carnivore Diet 09:25 Histamine and Gluten Considerations 12:57 GI Health and Vitamin Deficiencies 19:57 Leptin Resistance and Final Thoughts

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Today, we are discussing the most common symptoms, as well as lesser known issues that many CIRS patients endure before they get treated. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 01:09 The Symptom Clusters and how CIRS is diagnosed 03:55 Identifying symptoms in yourself 07:16 Common but lesser known symptoms 11:24 Archetypes in CIRS Patients 14:57 Diagnoses that may really mean CIRS 25:14 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com!

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.