In the latest episode of The Food Talk Show, host Ollie Lloyd talks to Philip Teverow, co-founder and CEO of Yolélé, a brand pioneering the development of fonio, a grain that you might not have heard of but has tremendous potential.

Fonio is not just any grain; it's a “gluten-free ancient grain that cooks in five minutes and is drought tolerant," emphasises Philip. Women in West Africa traditionally cultivate the grain as a subsistence crop. However, Philip and his business partner, legendary NY chef, Pierre Thiam, envision fonio as a grain that can support livelihoods through sustainable agriculture. Their mission began when Pierre tried to create a cookbook using authentic ingredients and realised there was a broader opportunity to create something altogether new with Teverow.

Teverow explains that fonio has challenges at its core: "It's very easy to grow, but hard to process due to its tiny grain size." The technical complexity of processing fonio involves removing an inedible hull from a minuscule grain. Despite these obstacles, the potential market for this grain appeals to major food companies, not just for its nutritional properties but also for its alignment with organisations' sustainable development goals.

The journey from conception to commercialisation began when they found a willing retail partner. “Whole Foods became our testing ground,” Philip explains, where they started by promoting fonio in a single Harlem store as a raw ingredient. The grain and its incredible story immediately got media attention, bringing Yolélé into the spotlight. Pretty quickly, global food companies started showing interest in incorporating fonio into their products, but there is still a lot of work to be done regarding the process.

The driving factor in fonio's potential lies in its versatility and its environmental promise. “Fonio can substitute for less sustainable grains, like rice or corn,” states Philip, highlighting its minimal water and carbon footprint. Its adaptability is evident in sectors beyond just whole grain consumption, finding its place in brewing, as well as in making crisps and flour and Yolélé already offer a number of these products direct to consumers.

Philip’s approach resonates with a broader outlook: supporting smallholder farmers in West Africa while maintaining the identity of fonio as an indigenous crop. Despite the steep capital required to scale processing, the commitment to fully industrialise production persists, balancing their commercial scale with the sustainability ethos.

Philip envisions a food system where fonio is just the beginning. He aims to incorporate multiple crops into this new regenerative agriculture model to support biodiversity and sustainable farming practices.

In the latest episode of The Food Talk Show, Ollie Lloyd hosts Amelia Christie Miller, the founder of Bold Beans, a brand transforming the bean market.

Amelia initially disliked beans until an unexpected experience, inspired by Nigel Slater during her Erasmus exchange in Madrid, altered her perspective. "I spooned one straight from the jar, and it was this mesmerising moment," Amelia recalls. Initially, this did register as a significant life-changing moment. However, a stint working with chefs showed her that there were better solutions to the trend towards meat alternatives, and the journey towards Bold Beans began.

Amelia rightly believes in beans' broader global, cultural and culinary roles. She recognises the international appeal of beans and sees beans as an excellent vehicle for embracing diverse flavours and inherently healthy recipes. "Beans are a cornerstone of how civilisation got here," she explains, portraying beans as an essential global food staple.

One of the core themes Amelia discusses is the brand's approach to health and sustainability through the lens of pleasure. "I want people to be tempted into buying it because they want to do it, not because they should," she states, emphasising the importance of taste over health benefits.

Amelia also sheds light on their marketing strategy, which is less about overtly highlighting the health benefits, which are a given, and more about creating a genuine love for beans. Their Instagram presence and content creation, led by Hannah Wilding, are central to this, driven by a belief that sharing delicious recipes goes beyond just selling a product. "Our mission is to make people bean obsessed," she explains, noting that early content creation efforts were based on trying to help friends cook with beans even before the brand existed as a real product.

Another fascinating aspect of Bold Beans is how they are battling quite established brands like Merchant Gourmet and Belazu in the core beans category and taking on giants like Heinz. In tackling the challenge of broader competition, Amelia finds confidence in focusing on beans exclusively. "Brands like Merchant Gourmet and Belazu can't own beans in the way that we can own beans." This singular focus allows Bold Beans to optimise quality and innovation within their niche, ensuring they remain leaders in flavor and sustainability.

As Bold Beans continues to innovate and educate about the versatility of beans, one senses that the team will not only shake up the bean category but also redefine what it means to eat sustainably and deliciously.

In the latest episode of The Food Talk Show, host Ollie Lloyd is joined by Imme Ermgassen, a co-founder of Botivo, a brand reshaping the non-alcoholic drinks landscape. Imme shares the intriguing backstory of Botivo, which diverges from the typical narratives surrounding alcohol-free drinks. “Botivo was born from pleasure and hedonism, not from the world of moderation,” she explains. This comes to life on Botivo's bottle, which has a vibrant yellow wax seal and artistic label adorned with joyful, diverse characters. These whimsical figures represent a lively celebration, reflecting the brand's commitment to inclusivity and the pleasure of indulgence.

Botivo is crafted on Lannock Farm in Hertfordshire, where co-founder Sam Paget Stevenson and his team handcraft each batch. Imme describes Botivo as a “British big-sipping botanical aperitivo” and highlights the brand's commitment to quality and flavour. “We are the only drink in the category which has no flavourings, essences, or preservatives,” she states, underscoring the brand's dedication to doing this with the love and attention needed to create a truly special product. This focus on authenticity results in complex taste profiles that rival premium crafted alcoholic beverages. Imme adds, “When you look at the reviews, the reaction is intense,” with many consumers declaring it “the best drink in the world.”

Sustainability is another cornerstone of Botivo's mission. Imme emphasises that while the product is healthy and sustainably minded, the primary focus is on delivering a remarkable taste experience. “We believe that taste is the priority,” she states, reflecting the brand’s philosophy that quality should never be compromised.

Imme envisions Botivo as a brand that fosters inclusivity, where everyone can enjoy a crafted beverage, regardless of their alcohol preferences. “I want Botivo to be the bottle at every dinner party,” she says, highlighting the brand’s aspiration to unite people in shared experiences.

Botivo's innovative approach includes its marketing, which often features a giant yellow piano, challenging the notion that sampling experiences are generally dull. At festivals, entertainers perform while attendees gather to enjoy the drinks and often burst into song. This engaging approach highlights the brand's playful spirit and commitment to creating memorable interactions, making Botivo stand out in the non-alcoholic beverage market.

The episode concludes with Imme sharing exciting plans for Botivo’s future, including upcoming limited-edition launches and collaborations with renowned brands. She expresses her commitment to maintaining a focused strategy prioritising quality and taste over rapid expansion. As Botivo grows, Imme’s insights reveal a brand poised to redefine what it means to enjoy sophisticated, alcohol-free beverages, blending authentic flavours, sustainability, and a sense of community in every bottle.