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  • One of the cheapest ways to save a life is going away (EXTENDED VERSION)
    Jul 4 2025
    This episode was first published as a bonus episode for our Planet Money+ listeners. Today, we're making it available for everyone!

    U.S. aid helped Eswatini and Lesotho, two small countries in southern Africa, in their efforts to treat and curb the spread of HIV. Will President Trump's "America First" foreign policy threaten years of progress there against the virus?

    In this bonus episode, we're featuring an extended conversation between Darian Woods and Jon Cohen, senior correspondent with Science magazine. They talk about Jon's reporting trip to Eswatini and Lesotho in May and the early impacts he saw of the Trump administration's foreign aid cuts. We also hear about the critical role of PEPFAR (the U.S. President's Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief) in the global response to HIV/AIDS and some other things we couldn't fit into the original episode.

    You can read Jon's recent article in Science magazine here.

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  • How ICE crackdowns are affecting the workforce
    Jul 3 2025
    The Trump administration's crackdown on immigrants might be the most profound change in the American labor market right now. Industries that rely on immigrant labor are especially vulnerable, as ICE continues to raid businesses believed to have unauthorized workers.

    Today on the show, we talk to representatives from the agriculture, construction and long-term care industries to ask: Are people still showing up to work?

    Related episodes:
    What's missing in the immigration debate
    Is the 'border crisis' actually a 'labor market crisis?'

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    Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez. Translation help by Ella Feldman. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.

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    9 m
  • Tech layoffs, recession pop and more listener questions answered
    Jul 2 2025
    We are back with another edition of listener questions! In this round, we tackle recession pop, why the job market feels so crummy for IT grads, and whether President Trump saying that Walmart "eat the tariffs" is a form of price control.

    Related episodes:
    Hits of the Dips: Songs of recessions past (Apple / Spotify)
    The beef over price controls
    Price Controls, Black Markets, and Skimpflation: The WWII Battle Against Inflation

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    9 m
  • Can Starlink stay ahead in satellite internet?
    Jun 30 2025
    Whether you're watching Love Island in an RV or streaming a playlist in a remote California campground, if you're using satellite internet, odds are you're using Elon Musk's Starlink.

    Today on the show, we learn how Starlink got such a big lead in the satellite market and if it can stay ahead of the European Union, China, and, of course, Jeff Bezos.

    Related episodes:
    Elon's giant rocket
    Why I joined DOGE (Apple/Spotify)

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    10 m
  • Babies v climate change; AI v IP; bonds v world
    Jun 27 2025
    It's ... Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news.

    On today's episode: Could more babies change the climate in a big way? Why did a U.S. judge side with AI company Anthropic? And why is the bond market so chill these days?

    Related episodes:
    Artists vs. AI
    You told us how tariffs are affecting you (Apple/Spotify)

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    9 m
  • We're gonna need a bigger boat-building industry
    Jun 26 2025
    During World War II, the U.S. shipbuilding industry flourished. Now, it's nearly non-existent. China is the dominant shipbuilder in the world economy. On today's show, we look at what happened to American shipbuilding and the protectionist impulses that could stifle a revival.

    Related episodes:
    Will Iran block the Strait of Hormuz?
    The great turnaround in shipping
    The wide open possibility of the high seas

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    Fact-checking by Tyler Jones. Music by
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    Correction:
    A previous version of this episode incorrectly said that there are 80 U.S.-flagged ships operating in global shipping. As of March, there were at least 95. The episode also incorrectly said that being U.S.-flagged means a ship was built in an American shipyard and has an American crew. There is no requirement that the ship be built in a U.S. shipyard, and citizenship requirements vary.

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    9 m
  • One of the cheapest ways to save a life is going away
    Jun 25 2025
    What's the price to save a human life? We examine the monumental legacy of the U.S. President's Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) with journalist Jon Cohen, who traveled to Eswatini and Lesotho to learn how cuts under the Trump Administration are hitting people at the clinic door.

    Related episodes:
    The gutting of USAID
    How USAID cuts hurts farmers

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    10 m