Ever find yourself staring at the ceiling at 8 PM wondering, “Was that the right intervention?” Or maybe you’re drowning in admin work, questioning if private practice is really the freedom-filled dream everyone said it would be?

In this episode, Gordon sits down with Marie from Private Practice Skills—a therapist, creator, and all-around wise human who gets the real behind-the-scenes of therapy life. We’re diving into the kind of conversations we need to be having: therapist burnout (the sneaky kind), invisible work hours, how outsourcing might save your sanity, and why you don’t have to build your practice like everyone else.

If you’ve ever thought, “Wait… am I doing this right?”—this episode is for you. Marie brings warmth, wisdom, and just the right amount of real talk to help you reconnect with your why and reimagine a practice that actually fits your life.

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Meet Dr. Marie Fang

Dr. Marie Fang is a licensed psychologist in private practice in San Diego, California. Her therapy practice focuses on working with folks often marginalized by their faith community, with an emphasis on supporting the LGBTQ+ community.

She is the creator of Private Practice Skills, a platform teaching therapists how to start and grow a sustainable private practice that aligns with their values while drawing in their favorite clients to work with.

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🎧 Ready to Grow Your Practice Without Losing Your Soul? This Episode’s for You.

In this episode, Gordon sits down with Gary Katz—psychotherapist, group practice owner, and intimacy expert—who’s scaling his business across state lines without sacrificing connection, clinical quality, or his sanity.

Gary opens up about what it really takes to grow a group practice that feels good, not just on paper, but in your body, your calendar, and your team culture. From building tight-knit pods of therapists to letting go of perfection and people-pleasing, this conversation is packed with honest insights and refreshingly human advice.

You’ll learn:

• Why “zero to one” is the scariest (and most emotional) business step
• How Gary structures growth without becoming a therapy mill
• What it looks like to say no with love—and lead with your values
• Whether you're just thinking about hiring or deep in the weeds of leading a team, this episode is your permission slip to do it differently—and do it with heart.

Press play and let’s go.

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Meet Gary Katz

Gary Katz is a psychotherapist and founder of The Center for Intimacy Recovery in New York, focusing on intimacy and relationships. He believes self-intimacy is essential for genuine connection with others. Many develop protective strategies for their hearts that later hinder the intimacy they seek. The Center helps clients overcome these barriers and build deeper connections.

To address healthy sexuality and issues like compulsive behaviors and betrayal trauma, Gary studied at the Modern Sex Therapy Institute, joined the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists, and became a Certified Sex Addiction and Partner Trauma Therapist through the International Institute of Trauma and Addiction Professionals.

He has also trained in Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, Accelerated Experiential Dynamic Psychotherapy (AEDP), and EMDR to address trauma stored in the body.

Before his current practice, Gary spent over 20 years as a rabbi.

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Let’s talk about grief. (I know—what a fun little opener, right?)

But hang in there, because Edy Nathan doesn’t talk about grief the way most people do. There’s no clinical detachment or textbook jargon here. Edy speaks from the kind of deep, personal knowing that only comes from living it.

She lost her partner at 27—a heartbreak that didn’t just shatter her world, but reshaped it completely. Instead of stuffing it down or soldiering through, Edy got curious. She studied grief, sat with it, wrote about it, and eventually made it her life’s work. Today, she helps others see grief not as a shadow to avoid, but as a complex, uninvited dance partner we all have to learn to move with.

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Edy Nathan, MA, LCSWR, is an author, public speaker, and licensed therapist. She is an AASECT-certified sex therapist, hypnotherapist, and certified EMDR practitioner with more than 20 years of experience. Edy earned degrees from New York University and Fordham University, with post-graduate training at the Ackerman Institute for Family Therapy. She practices in New York City.

In her expertise as a grief therapist, she interweaves her formal training as a psychotherapist with breathwork, guided imagery, ritual, and storytelling. Trauma, abuse, and grief cause the soul to become imbalanced: The goal of the work is to find emotional calibration or balance to defy the depth of darkness and the grip grief often has on the psyche. She believes that everyone experiences grief throughout their lives. Grief is not just about the death of a loved one, but the losses we experience in life.

Grief is hard to talk about. Edy teaches you to dance with your grief, to know it as a way to know yourself. Whether it is the loss of a loved one, the loss of a limb, or the loss of the life you once knew, it is your soul that offers the answers to relief. An essential element in her practice is to offer clients the chance to combine psychotherapy with a deeper, more spiritual understanding of the self. She is dedicated to helping people understand their grief, cope with the fear and struggle that hold them back, and learn to live fully.

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