In this powerful solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about something every retreat leader will face: objections.
Especially the most common one—“It’s too expensive.”

But before you spiral into discounting or self-doubt, Shannon shares a refreshing and aligned way to navigate objections with confidence, compassion, and curiosity.

This episode is your permission slip to stop taking objections personally and start using them as powerful conversations rooted in leadership.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why “it’s too expensive” usually isn’t about money
• The #1 thing NOT to do when someone hesitates to book
• Shannon’s 3-part method to handle objections without losing your power:
• • A Soft Place to Land
  • A Point of Agreement
  • Get Curious
• How to hold space for transformation (not fear)
• Why objections are opportunities in disguise

Favorite Quote:

“Objections aren’t stop signs. They’re starting points.” — Shannon Jamail

Read our full blog here: https://theretreatleadersplaybook.com/dealing-with-objections-as-a-retreat-leader/

The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links:

• Learn to Host Retreats
• Join our private Facebook Group
• Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide
• Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List
• Get your legal docs for retreats

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In this bold and enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Dora Rankin, a business growth coach and sales strategist who isn’t afraid to tell retreat leaders the hard truth: you’re likely spending way too much time on marketing and not enough on sales.

Dora breaks down the key differences between sales and marketing (hint: they are NOT the same thing!) and explains why retreat leaders should be spending at least 70% of their business-building time focused on actual sales activities. From connecting directly with potential guests to having powerful discovery calls, Dora shows us how marketing is just the invitation—sales is where the transformation (and the bookings) happen.

She also dives into the 4 core styles of sales and how to identify which one fits your personality and business model best. Whether you’re a seasoned retreat host or new to the game, this episode will flip your mindset, get you out of hiding behind pretty Instagram posts, and into real, aligned action that fills retreats.

What You’ll Learn:

• The difference between marketing and sales (and why that matters more than you think)
• Why most retreat leaders are spending their time backwards
• The 4 ways to sell (and which one fits YOU)
• How to confidently step into the sales process without feeling slimy or pushy
• Practical tips to rewire your mindset around visibility, outreach, and relationship-building

Connect with Dora Rankin: Website: https://dorarankin.com

The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links:

• Learn to Host Retreats
• Join our private Facebook Group
• Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide
• Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List
• Get your legal docs for retreats

Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let’s create a vibrant retreat community together!

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In this powerhouse episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with luxury retreat designer and director Daesha Donze to talk all things logistics, style, and sanity-saving support for retreat hosts.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed trying to juggle planning, hosting, and actually enjoying your own retreat—this episode is your permission slip to hand over the clipboard and reclaim your energy.

Episode Highlights:

• Why hiring a retreat planner or coordinator is a total game-changer
  (Spoiler: so you can finally enjoy your own retreat)
• How Daesha tailors each event to the host’s brand, vibe, and clientele
• The difference between hosting and directing—and why you shouldn’t do both
• A quick dive into Seller of Travel laws and how Daesha can legally book and sell travel worldwide
• Her high-touch services: VIP Planning Sessions, Done-for-You Planning, On-Site Coordination, and VIP Weekends

Whether you’re planning your first retreat or looking to level up your next luxury mastermind, Daesha’s insights will leave you inspired (and ready to hand over the spreadsheets).

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Grab Daesha’s Free Retreat Planning Logistics Checklist!

Connect with Daesha:

Instagram: @daeshadonze

Tune in now to learn how to transform your retreat experience from stressed-out host to fully present powerhouse. You deserve to lead with ease—and Daesha shows us how.

About Daesha

My name is Daeha Donze. I am a Luxury Retreat Designer & Director. I do everything from brainstorming with retreat hosts, to planning and doing everything for them, to being on-site coordinating the retreat. Coming from a background in fashion, my passion is styling the retreat to the retreat host, her clients, and the brand. I work with influential leaders that are creating movements and want to go deep with their clients in person. From masterminds, to wellness retreats, to larger scale events, I am there to take the stress and overwhelm of coordinating in-person events and replace it with a seamless experience while having the time of our lives.

MY SERVICES/HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER: VIP Planning Session, DFY Retreat Planning, On-Site Coordination, & VIP Weekends

The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links:

• Learn to Host Retreats
• Join our private Facebook Group
• Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide
• Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List
• Get your legal docs for retreats

Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let’s create a vibrant retreat community together!

Subscribe:

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