Career success without fulfillment is just a paycheck. Kathleen Bodenlos discovered this truth after spending a decade climbing the corporate ladder, only to realize that external achievements weren't filling her soul. Our conversation takes an unexpected turn as she reveals how childhood memories of her favorite museum sparked a complete career reinvention, eventually leading her to become CEO of Discovery Gateway Children's Museum in Salt Lake City.

What makes this episode particularly compelling is how universal Kathleen's experience feels. We dive deep into questions many professionals silently struggle with: How do you recognize when your career path isn't right for you? What role do childhood passions play in discovering your true calling? And perhaps most importantly, how can you find the courage to pivot toward fulfillment when everyone around you sees only your "success"? Whether you're a parent looking for meaningful experiences to share with your children or someone questioning your own career trajectory, Kathleen's insights offer valuable perspective.

Looking ahead, I also preview my upcoming conversation with Chad Hopkins, founder of Hopkins Brewing—a beloved Sugar House institution that evolved from basement beer-making to a community gathering place with exceptional brews and food. The story of how Chad and I connected is quintessential Small Lake City, highlighting the beautiful interconnectedness of our community. Stay tuned for concert ticket giveaways through our partnership with Live Nation, and catch us on Instagram for exclusive chances to win tickets to your favorite shows around the valley. Spring has arrived in Utah—the perfect time to enjoy outdoor activities before summer heat sets in, and perhaps contemplate what true fulfillment looks like in your own life. Listen, subscribe, and join our growing community of curious minds exploring all that makes Salt Lake City special.

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Join Erik as he supports Fork Cancer, a night of food, drinks, and live music—all for a great cause. Grab your tickets at utah.acscanforkcancer.org and enter Erik Nilsson to help him hit his $12,000 fundraising goal!

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