Ira Pasternack has been in urgent care marketing since before LinkedIn existed, and today, he’s helping clinics rethink growth by leaning into a service line that most still overlook: occupational medicine.

As the founder of WebForDoctors and a long-time leader in urgent care strategy, Ira has spent over two decades helping practices grow volume, build smarter websites, and scale services like Occ Med that can stabilize revenue and drive new business, even in the summer slump. In this episode, he joins Nick and Michael to unpack why Occ Med is not just a side hustle. It’s a legitimate B2B growth engine when done right.

Together, they get into the practical and often misunderstood realities of launching or scaling Occ Med inside an urgent care setting. That includes what clinics get wrong, why marketing it takes a completely different approach than urgent care, and how to think about employer relationships the right way.

🔥 In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

💼 Why Occ Med is a B2B strategy and how it helps balance seasonality in urgent care
📉 How the “summer slump” creates the perfect window to launch or level up your Occ Med program
🏗️ What employers are really looking for in an Occ Med partner and how to win their trust
📊 Why Occ Med revenue can vary wildly from 10% to 85% depending on location, promotion, and process
🔁 How to approach outreach with LinkedIn, email, phone, and real follow-up systems
🤝 Why content creation, consistency, and nurturing matter more than a one-time campaign
🛠️ What to expect from a free consultation and the flexible support options Ira’s team offers

🔗 Resources & Mentions:

• Book a Free Occ Med Consultation with Ira: https://patientcaremarketingpros.com/pasternack-marketing/

• Learn more about NAOHP (National Association of Occupational Health Professionals): https://naohp.com/

• WebForDoctors: https://www.webfordoctors.com/

• Connect with Ira on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irapasternack/

Whether you’re just curious or ready to expand your Occ Med strategy, this episode breaks down what’s possible, what it takes, and how to get started.

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🎵 Intro/Outro Music by Devin Smith: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4UdQjNXnACFE2VpkEoP8v2?si=pDx5jsgtRFOtwrpMOKOkuQ

We're switching gears this week! No guests, no webinars, just Nick and Michael reflecting on what it means to lead well when things slow down.

After a packed few months of interviews, webinars, and travel, the guys are stepping back to share personal stories from their own summer reset, including an 8-day, 3,000-mile camping trip to Maine, a deep dive into instrument flight training, and a very real conversation about burnout, balance, and what the “slow season” actually means for urgent care leaders.

This episode is a reminder that growth doesn’t always happen in the grind. Sometimes, it's in the margin. And whether you're flying, driving, or just staying home, taking a break might be the best thing you do for your team, and yourself, this summer.

🔥 In This Episode, You’ll Hear:🌲 What 3,000 miles of camping teaches you about leadership🛩️ Why instrument training isn’t just about flying—but mindset📉 How urgent care owners can use the summer slump to reset💡 Tips for identifying gaps in your team when you’re away👨‍👩‍👧 Why presence, not productivity, might be your best ROI right now

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🎙️ The Advocacy Podcast is officially launched! Expect policy updates, expert guests, grassroots strategy, and why advocacy doesn’t have to be boring. Listen now: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2460989/episodes/17307710

This week on Walk-Ins Welcome, we’re joined by Kristin Rastatter, Advocacy Manager at the Urgent Care Association (UCA)—and someone who’s turning policy conversations into powerful momentum for urgent care clinics across the country.

Kristin’s journey into advocacy began with her work at Meals on Wheels, where she discovered a deep passion for helping underserved communities. At UCA, she’s taken that energy to the national stage—collaborating with the Association’s lobbyist, McDermott+, and leading conversations with CMS and lawmakers to fight for better reimbursement, reduce emergency department overutilization, and advocate for policy change that benefits urgent care centers.

And now, she’s bringing that same mission to the mic—Kristin is launching The Advocacy Podcast, a new show dedicated to unpacking policy updates, sharing behind-the-scenes stories from Capitol Hill, and showing how advocacy can be both impactful and fun. Expect expert guests, grassroots insights, and practical ways you can get involved—whether you're an owner, provider, or team member.

🔥 In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

🏛️ Why UCA is pushing for a new CMS place-of-service code and G-code for enhanced urgent care centers

📈 How CMS and commercial payers are being engaged to address stagnant reimbursement rates

🤝 What urgent care owners can do today to contribute to advocacy efforts

📬 How personal stories and real clinic data are moving federal conversations forward

🎙️ What to expect from The Advocacy Podcast

🔗 Resources & Mentions:Connect with Kristin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-rastatter-b862b1255/Learn more about UCA’s Advocacy Work: https://urgentcareassociation.org/uc-advocacy/

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