In this episode of “We Don’t Talk About That,” we explore the progress being made at the critical intersection of mental health and policing, speaking with an expert on both - Officer Demita Kinard, of Tulsa PD. From police departments trying new approaches, mental health professionals teaming up with first responders, and community leaders building alternative strategies from the ground up, it’s no longer about what’s broken—it’s about what’s being rebuilt. Join us as we explore how compassion, collaboration, and real conversations are helping to reshape the way we respond to mental health crises—for everyone involved.

In this episode, Tulsa Oklahoma’s Mayor, Monroe Nichols, speaks on the bond between effective leadership and thoughtful mental health care and shares his personal experiences with trauma, self-doubt and what it takes to move beyond.

In today’s special episode, GRAND Mental Health’s new CEO, Josh Cantwell, takes center stage for an up-close and personal conversation, touching on his background, personal motivation, and his vision/plans for moving GRAND forward. Learn more from a leading force in the mental healthcare industry, and a champion for those in need.

In this episode, GRAND Mental Health's Chief Clinical Officer of Crisis Services, Nic Allgood shares some of the signs we can look for in others who may be experiencing mental health challenges during the winter holidays, as well as ways we can take care of ourselves during this time of year. Jessica and Nic discuss how to spot signs of suicidal thoughts in others, how to "check in without digging in," and how to respect and create healthy boundaries.