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The Burgundians

By: Bart van Loo, Nancy Forest-Flier - translator
Narrated by: Nigel Patterson
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At the end of the fifteenth century, Burgundy was extinguished as an independent state. It had been a fabulously wealthy, turbulent region situated between France and Germany, with close links to the English kingdom. Torn apart by the dynastic struggles of early modern Europe, this extraordinary realm vanished from the map. But it became the cradle of what we now know as the Low Countries, modern Belgium and the Netherlands.

This is the story of a thousand years, a must-listen narrative history of ambitious aristocrats, family dysfunction, treachery, savage battles, luxury, and madness. It is about the decline of knightly ideals and the awakening of individualism and of cities, the struggle for dominance in the heart of northern Europe, bloody military campaigns, and fatally bad marriages. It is also a remarkable cultural history, of great art and architecture and music emerging despite the violence and the chaos of the tension between rival dynasties.

©2019 Bart Van Loo (P)2023 Tantor
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Great book but really needs a PDF companion

This is a great book but it really needs a PDF companion with maps and artwork to reference while listening. That one piece would make all the difference in making this a much richer experience.

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Excellent.

As a history reader, I enjoyed this book very much for the meandering and side stories. Refreshing that religion was not a main focus as in most historical books.

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A wonderful tale of Burgundy’s pivotal role

This is an engaging account of Burgundy”s rise and fall as a state and how it contributed to the emergence of early modern Europe.

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Lovely book and perfectly narrated

Good mix of depth and speed moving forward in the narrative. Author seems really competent

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well researched

Over all, I enjoy the book. there were areas that seemed to drag, but that is the way of history.

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History of the Low Countries 1300-1500

Rather niche field of study, with the implication being this era of Low Countries history is understudied and requisite to understanding the later Spanish - Austria - independent Netherlands and Belgium. The 1111 years thing is bullshit and I would have liked more history than your court machinations and feasts, but that is kind of the Burgundians’ thing.

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Different Perspectives of Familiar Stories

This is a fascinating take on the medieval period in Europe, it's like finding new episodes of your favorite show. The narrator is fantastic.

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Fascinating history

Fascinating subject including the early art history of the region. Refreshing to hear history other than France or England.

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Please get better title conventions please

Good book, author clearly did a lot of research. Not a fan of some of his “x or y” chapter naming convention, especially one he started added “but also z” to it as well. I would’ve preferred something a little less biased, as you can tell Van Loo has a high opinion on the Burgundian’s of yore. A personal pet peeve of mine was how he referred to Johanna of Castile or Johanna the mad. I know she was a minor character in the narrative but I felt he was rather dismissive about her mental health and the various cruel treatments/attitudes afflicted on her by her parents and later her son. Van Loo also used the word “savages” in regards to debates on indigenous peoples during the reign of Charles V and god I really really hated hearing that.
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Extraordinary story, expertly told and skillfully narrated

I bought this book because there are no good English books on the Armagnac-Burgundian civil war, so I thought a book that would have to focus a quarter of its material on John the Fearless would be a good source. In the end, this was much more fascinating and enthralling than that.
My only interaction with anything Dutch has been to pedantically correct people who refer to the Netherlands as “Holland,” and to marvel at their inability to ever win the World Cup even when they are undoubtedly the best team. Now I know how they came to be, how their identity was forged, and the accidents of history that led them to that identity.

Another commenter on this audiobook said van Loo’s personal anecdotes were unprofessional and uninteresting. That is absolute nonsense. Only in the introduction does he mention something personal, and it’s quite germane (his childhood books tell us of how long he’s been fascinated with this subject, his young daughter’s ability to identify a Burgundian Duke’s painting speaks to how this subject is more than merely academic to him, and the brief mention of his French wife tells us of his connection to France, the country the Dukes came from and the country where Burgundy lies today.) Additionally, all these comments take up about 45 seconds of your time. A chill pill for the humorless Audible commentator is in order here.

The one area where the audiobook suffers is in the discussions of art, not because the subject shouldn’t be broached, but because the names of the artists and their work (impeccably pronounced by the very skillful narrator, or so I assume, since they sound very authentic) are impossible to understand for those of us who are not of a Northern European persuasion. Who the hell is Ho-ho Vanderhose? Well, it turned out it’s Hugo van der Goes, but I had to do my own sleuthing to figure it out. Of course, this is a problem without a solution (short of me learning Dutch) since it’s not the writer or the narrator’s fault that I couldn’t figure out what that name was.
One more thing: the narration is excellent. The French is flawless, and I can vouch that the few Spanish words are also flawlessly rendered (that’s my first language.) The narrator also has a perfect tone, which doesn’t dip up or down, so you can hear everything at your preferred volume. This might seem like an obvious thing all narrators should do but, good god, it’s less obvious than you think.
Now that the ending of this book has whet my Charles V appetite, I am moving on to Geoffrey Parker’s biography of him and (happy days!) its read by this very same narrator.

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