The Trouble with White Women
A Counterhistory of Feminism
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Mela Lee
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An incisive history of self-serving White feminists and the inspiring women who’ve continually defied them.
Women including Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Margaret Sanger, and Sheryl Sandberg are commonly celebrated as leaders of feminism. Yet they have fought for the few, not the many. As award-winning scholar Kyla Schuller argues, their White feminist politics dispossess the most marginalized to liberate themselves.
In The Trouble with White Women, Schuller brings to life the 200-year counter-history of Black, Indigenous, Latina, poor, queer, and trans women pushing back against White feminists and uniting to dismantle systemic injustice. These feminist heroes such as Frances Harper, Harriet Jacobs, and Pauli Murray have created an anti-racist feminism for all. But we don’t speak their names, and we don’t know their legacies. Unaware of these intersectional leaders, feminists have been led down the same dead-end alleys generation after generation, often working within the structures of racism, capitalism, homophobia, and transphobia rather than against them.
Building a more just feminist politics for today requires a reawakening, a return to the movement’s genuine vanguards and visionaries. Their compelling stories, campaigns, and conflicts reveal the true potential of feminist liberation. The Trouble with White Women gives feminists today the tools to fight for the flourishing of all.
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The Third Reconstruction
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Distinguished historian Peniel E. Joseph offers a powerful and personal new interpretation of recent history. The racial reckoning that unfolded in 2020, he argues, marked the climax of a Third Reconstruction: a new struggle for citizenship and dignity for Black Americans, just as momentous as the movements that arose after the Civil War and during the civil rights era. Joseph draws revealing connections and insights across centuries as he traces this Third Reconstruction from the election of Barack Obama to the rise of Black Lives Matter to the failed assault on the Capitol.
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Revealing & powerful.
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Beginning with a foreword by Michael Eric Dyson, Rise Up is a rousing call to action for our nation, drawing on lessons learned from Reverend Al Sharpton’s unique experience as a politician, television and radio host, and civil rights leader.
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Some Americans cling desperately to the myth that we are living in a post-racial society, that the election of the first Black president spelled the doom of racism. In fact, racist thought is alive and well in America - more sophisticated and more insidious than ever. And as award-winning historian Ibram X. Kendi argues in Stamped from the Beginning, if we have any hope of grappling with this stark reality, we must first understand how racist ideas were developed, disseminated, and enshrined in American society.
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Valuable examination of Jim Crow and Rise of White Supremacy in America
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Thought provoking!
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Ida B. Wells committed herself to the needs of those who did not have power. In the eyes of the FBI, this made her a “dangerous negro agitator”. In the annals of history, it makes her an icon. Ida B. the Queen tells the awe-inspiring story of a pioneering woman who was often overlooked and underestimated - a woman who refused to exit a train car meant for White passengers; a woman brought to light the horrors of lynching in America; a woman who cofounded the NAACP.
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I was expecting something different
- By L on 02-01-21
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commendable topic....
- By CB on 10-25-19
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The Progressive Era witnessed the nation's most convulsive upheaval, a time of radicalism far beyond the Revolution or anything since. In response to the birth of modern America, one small group of middle-class Americans seized control of the nation and attempted to remake society from bottom to top. They accomplished an astonishing range of triumphs, yet the progressive movement collapsed as the war came to an end amid race riots, strikes, high inflation, and a frenzied Red scare.
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A well balanced take
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the ultimate downplay
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- Deb Evans
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So informative
Wow. I learned so much listening to this book. I have no idea HOW to join the intersectionality movement, but I sure want to do something.
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Every single bit of this was educational, informative, and necessary!
I picked this book on a whim because, as a white woman, I'm well aware of just how problematic white women can be. I knew in abstract that the feminist movement was problematic regarding racism due to random tidbits I've read. I knew that the person who founded Planned Parenthood, while arguably a great organization in this day and age, wanted to sterilize large groups of people that she didn't think should be allowed to reproduce.
I'm glad to have found this book.
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- A. Robertson
- 11-30-21
Excellent read!
This book was so informative, and really highlights how sex, race, gender, and economic status intersect in various feminist movements. I loved how the author compared white feminists with feminists of color in each chapter, really giving the reader a more detailed view of each persons background and perspective. This should be required reading at the high school level!
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- J. C. Edens
- 01-27-23
Well-written, illuminating, I learned so much.
This book was fantastic - I’m writing my dissertation in feminist rhetoric and know a lot about the history of women’s movements, and yet, I learned so much from this book. Schuller is a great writer and storyteller. She explains well the concepts she’s discussing and problems inherent in white feminism, especially it’s interwoven relationship to oppression and capitalism. Highly recommend.
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- KGF
- 11-20-24
Essential reading
Both a history lesson and social commentary on how white women have propped themselves up using the knowledge and lived experiences of Black women while others have written them out of the narrative as they rise to the top.
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- PeacefulSeeker
- 08-22-22
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"The Trouble with White Women" feels like the creation of either an attorney or a painter, I can't decide. It's literary art. It's the rare book I could not just browse or be satisfied with portions. I don't typically read snatches from books, but often in retrospect, I can recognize the most salient sections, sort of like highlighting.
This is a "cover-to-cover" affair. Every paragraph builds a chapter that leads to the next, and then finally, the epilogue.
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- Erin Guimon
- 02-09-23
Amazing
I learned a great deal from this book. It was very eye opening, and had an excellent reader.
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- Susan G.
- 08-08-23
Extremely inspiring and wonderful
This book has taught me so much. It is brilliant, moral and carefully researched. I am going to read the book now. Thank you for your work.
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- Michelle Hammond
- 12-10-24
Feels unfinished
The first part of the book was great and it was pretty obvious why and how the problem with racism in early white "feminist" leaders was a problem. The sections about the very ongoing and recent issues of trans rights and ideology seemed to be unfinished and lacking in any explanation or rebuttal for the convincing arguments from radical feminism's concerns. It's not even mentioned or addressed, and the author simply begins using the word TERF without clarification or definition. This feels a bit immature and unlike an academic, and the sassy narrator makes it feel like not even the author has given this issue very deep thought. Similarly, AOC's chapter felt very lengthy though not undeserving, but with the more recent let down of her recent unwillingness to call for a ceasefire shows the book didn't address the reality that feminism is a living and breathing ideology which is changing daily. Grouping the mental health issues of males suffering from gender dysphoria into feminism without proper explanation is where this book is mainly lacking, perhaps a separate book breaking this down is better warranted. the accusatory tone of this entire chapter, isn't helpful or educating or driving any points. I feel the book said nothing substantial in this section and feels more divisive, so should either be another book altogether or left out of this one. Racism is not the same as Homophobia is not the same as Transphobia, so the rad fem argument wins until this is accurately broken down.
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- Jennifer
- 10-29-22
A Must Read
If you consider yourself a feminist, you must read this. White women need to do better.
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