We sat down with Dr. Nada Sanders, an expert in forecasting and human-technology interaction and the author of The Humachine, a book that explores a coming future of AI-enabled connection between men and machine. And today, we’re breaking down the pandemic-fueled rise of AI, and the many levers that will impact our ever-more digital future.

Episode Links:

• The Humachine – https://nadasanders.com/books/the-humachine/
• How the pandemic impacted global supply chains – https://www.ey.com/en_us/insights/supply-chain/how-covid-19-impacted-supply-chains-and-what-comes-next
• Kasparov’s law – https://courtofthegrandchildren.com/kasparovs-law/
• Corporate AI adoption – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/business-spending-on-ai-jumps-500-to-13-8-billion-on-200-billion-in-capex
• AI-related job loss – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/chatgpt-s-impact-on-the-labor-market-openai-generative-ai-artificial-intelligence-job-loss-report-st
• Microsoft and IBM AI reskilling – https://newsroom.ibm.com/2024-04-04-Leading-Companies-Launch-Consortium-to-Address-AIs-Impact-on-the-Technology-Workforce
• AI hallucinations – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/the-nobel-prize-and-the-mainstreaming-of-ai-s-x-risk
• Neil Theise on complexity – https://www.columbia.edu/cu/tract/projects/complexity-theory.html
• Rise of AI regulation – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/progress-predictions-2025-oversight-governance-and-regulation
• Gary Marcus interview – https://youtu.be/-oTxLnmubVk​

Outline:

0:00 – Intro
4:00 – The global pandemic and the rise of AI
13:16 – AI and skill atrophy
20:00 – People crave connection
27:20 – AI and mounting job loss
41:48 – Automating the future
52:43 – The human will to live
1:00:37 – Hallucination
1:05:49 – The regulatory landscape
1:15:52 – Staying positive

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Artificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by a number of complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor-in-Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care.