Its World Environment Day and in honour of this we pop back to China in Month 5 to speak to Grant, global sustainability and environmental advisor - at his desk, between night and day, China and Holland - with a deep hold on the historical legacy of this year. 

* the changes he has seen take place overnight in the sustainability world as a result of Covid and why this can't be wasted - its the test run the world needs. 

* the deeply personal reflection on the loss of his father at this time. And what it really means to celebrate a life and empathy in the virtual space.

* reflecting on what 'lockdown' and 'spike' meant in China, words its quite hard to fathom when you think of the size of cities involved

* his genius and simple idea to deal with zoom/meeting burnout (seriously me right now)

* and something we are all reflecting on now:-being on the right side of history

This episode was recorded on July 16, 2020

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