Trudy and Lisa discuss the positive feedback the episode about grief received from listeners of all ages and experiences. Trudy talks about the wonderful and unexpected engagement from diverse listeners. They also reflect on the importance of inclusive spaces and our evolving roles and identities as we age. A rousing debate about the necessity of having some women-only spaces versus only inclusive ones ensues, with Trudy emphasizing her desire to participate in spaces with all genders. Both hosts highlight the importance of adapting to new technologies while maintaining a sense of joy and adventure in life.

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--Chapters--

• (00:34) - Intro
• (02:56) - Seeing Oneself in Stories
• (07:59) - Space to Be
• (14:33) - Networking
• (17:28) - Changing roles
• (21:14) - Explaining
• (24:53) - Pace
• (28:06) - Close

--Credits—

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

Trudy and Lisa turn their eyes to the ebb and flow of relationships as they navigate absent loved ones and changing friendships over time.

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--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (03:59) - Cycles
• (09:37) - Grace
• (15:01) - Reciprocity
• (17:14) - Ebbs + Flows
• (22:03) - Stages
• (24:44) - Shared Experiences
• (29:36) - Close

--References--

1. Franco, Marisa G. (2022) Platonic: How the Science of Attachment Can Help You Make — and Keep — Friends. G. P. Putnam’s Sons. New York, US.

--Credits—

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

Our younger selves may have had more stamina, but they’ve got nothing on our experience. Trudy and Lisa explore the idea of competing with the younger self and finding strength in their cronage.

See the clip of Jodie Foster’s full quote: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AynbA4j99NE

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--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (04:01) - Younger Self
• (07:50) - Confidence
• (14:05) - Growth
• (21:08) - Stamina
• (23:53) - Refined Treasure
• (31:43) - Close

--Credits—

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

When words don’t feel right, we are left to action. Trudy shares what she learned from those who supported her through the loss of her husband in the best ways they knew how — comforting efforts, clumsy advice and all.

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We want to hear from you about all things crone.

--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:21) - Words
• (08:08) - Funerals
• (12:38) - Hospital Staff
• (17:08) - Acts of Kindness
• (23:37) - Carrying Forward
• (27:38) - Get Over It
• (31:14) - Kinds of Grief
• (35:21) - Close

Hosted by Lisa Austin and Trudy Callaghan

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

A beautiful and deeply moving conversation, this episode is Trudy’s story of losing her husband. For those who are acquainted with grief and for those who’ve yet to face the death of someone they love, this is one crone’s vulnerable recounting of the days leading up to a life changing loss.

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Quote from Anne Lamott:

“If you haven’t already, you will lose someone you can’t live without, and your heart will be badly broken, and you never get over the loss of a deeply beloved person. But this is the good news. The person lives forever, in your broken heart that doesn’t seal back up. And you come through, and you learn to dance with the banged-up heart. You dance to the absurdities of life; you dance to the minuet of old friendships.”

In the episode, Trudy mentions that this is the quote they read at a monument near Christchurch in New Zealand. The quote was printed on a temporary sign, which her husband took a picture of.

We found that this quote appears differently across various online posts. We were unable to determine the original text for the quote, and so have shared the one Trudy has come to know from her husband’s photograph.

--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:03) - An Invisible Shawl
• (05:52) - Bearing Witness
• (19:32) - Record of Days
• (29:48) - Gathering
• (37:57) - Close

1. Hall, Emory. (2023). Metabolism. made of rivers. Three Rivers Publishing. Boulder, CO. USA.

Emory Hall and Trevor Hall created an audio version of select poems from the made of rivers anthology, and you can find that on YouTube at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QcZuTpv42I

--Credit--
Hosted by Lisa Austin and Trudy Callaghan

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

“Purpose” is an audacious idea that purports to shape our lives. We’re not so sure about that. We put our thinking faces on and take a look at the purpose we decide for ourselves, the purpose others discover in us, and whether this whole “purpose” thing is as singular as we’ve been told.

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--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (01:53) - Flummoxed by Purpose
• (06:20) - One or Many
• (13:54) - Unique Contributions
• (20:22) - Stay Present
• (25:08) - Close

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen

Robin Pacific is a Canadian writer and visual artist. She is a highly credentialed, single malt drinking Anglican socialist. And she is a crone. Embodying all that and more, Robin joins us in a thought-provoking discussion about identity, grief and creativity.

See Robin Pacific’s work: https://www.robinpacific.ca/

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--Chapters–

• (00:00) - Intro
• (04:04) - Collage
• (09:35) - Words + Images
• (15:30) - Grief Speak
• (18:36) - Dayne
• (24:14) - Naked
• (28:48) - Seasons
• (31:23) - Ephemeral
• (34:59) - Transformative
• (40:16) - Close

--References--

Pacific, Robin. (2024) Skater Girl, An Archeology of the Self. Guernica Editions. Gananoque, ON, CAN.

--Credits—

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin

Produced by Odvod Media.

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen.

Original music by Darrin Hagen.

Since posting our “Stuff of Life” episode, we’ve been thinking more about how a life can be depicted in things. Our friend, Jane Bisbee, joins us to further celebrate the joy and history of the treasures we collect and what happens when it’s time to let them go.

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--Chapters--

• (00:00) - Intro
• (03:39) - Interesting Things
• (08:22) - Stewardship
• (12:46) - Layers
• (16:49) - Pass It On
• (23:23) - Destinations
• (33:03) - Photos
• (38:17) - Treasures
• (41:09) - Close

1. Peter Pauper Press. (2015) I’m Dead, Now What! Planner. Peter Pauper Press. Rye Brook, NY, U.S.
2. Find. https://findedmonton.com/

--Credits—

Hosted by Lisa Austin and Trudy Callaghan

Produced by Odvod Media.

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen.

Original music by Darrin Hagen.