Edge of the Nest

By: Cassie Wilcox & Erica Scheifflee
  • Summary

  • This is a podcast hosted by two pediatric therapists who are dedicated to the continual growth of ourselves and others (e.g., significant others, children, clients, friends, family members). Here we talk about our own personal and professional experiences as it relates to physical and emotional wellness, optimal child development, and personal growth as a lifelong journey. Our discussions are vulnerable, authentic, practical, and illustrate the importance of community. ****Stay connected!**** Reach out to us at edgeofthenest@gmail.com to: (1) Subscribe to our email list, (2) Ask questions, and (3) Share requests for future episodes.
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Episodes
  • New Season, New Format!
    Jan 1 2025

    We're about to kick off our fourth season here at Edge of the Nest, and we're doing things a little differently this time around. For Season 4, we are bringing back Teresa Nair to have mini roundtable talks around:

    1. Self-Regulation
    2. Anxiety
    3. PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)
    4. Executive Function
    5. School Refusal
    6. Writing Skills

    And if you have any additional topic requests, we would love for you to email us! Some of our favorite past episodes have been inspired by listener requests. You can email at edgeofthenest@gmail.com.

    Join us next month as we kick-off Self-Regulation as the first episode in this series.

    ***Music credits***

    Uppbeat (free for Creators!); https://uppbeat.io/t/hartzmann/clear-sky; License code: GQGN7ICA9D8IDOUT

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    9 mins
  • The Benefits of Rough and Tumble Play
    Oct 12 2024

    Did you know that “rough and tumble play” is associated with greater motor, cognitive, and emotional development in children? But it goes way beyond play wrestling!

    Join Erica and Cassie to hear about all things rough and tumble. We will cover:

    • What are the benefits of rough and tumble play?
    • What constitutes rough and tumble play?
    • What if I don’t want to or can’t wrestle with my kids?
    • How do I keep myself and my child safe during rough and tumble play?

    **Resources**

    • The Art of Roughhousing: Good Old-Fashioned Horseplay and Why Every Kid Needs It by Anthony T. DeBenedet, M.D. and Lawrence J. Cohen, PhD (2011).
    • Smith, P. K., & StGeorge, J. M. (2022). Play fighting (rough-and-tumble play) in children: developmental and evolutionary perspectives. International Journal of Play, 12(1), 113–126. https://doi.org/10.1080/21594937.2022.2152185
    • Pellis, S. M., & Pellis, V. C. (2007). Rough-and-Tumble Play and the Development of the Social Brain. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 16(2), 95-98. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8721.2007.00483.x
    • Carlson, F.M. (2011). Rough Play: One of the Most Challenging Behaviors. https://www.bgnelson.com/workshops/BBGG_Canada/BigBody&ActivePlay.pdf

    ***Music credits***

    Uppbeat (free for Creators!); https://uppbeat.io/t/hartzmann/clear-sky; License code: GQGN7ICA9D8IDOUT

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    46 mins
  • Neurodivergence and Twice Exceptionality: Moving Beyond the Struggle
    Aug 1 2024

    Does your child struggle in school? Maybe academics are the challenge. Perhaps their difficulties are more related to the social or emotional aspects of school. Does your child have a diagnosis such as dyslexia, ADHD, autism, dysgraphia, etc? Do sensory processing challenges impact your child’s success? If any of these ring true, this episode is here to empower YOU.

    Join Erica and Cassie as we chat with our special guest, Teresa Nair. Teresa helps families navigate the complex journey of neurodiversity—including but not limited to those who are twice exceptional. You’ll hear about Teresa’s path from Silicon Valley to public and private education. In this jam-packed episode, we discuss:

    • What is 2e (twice exceptional)? How do we know if our child is 2e?
    • The power of utilizing a strength-based paradigm to support neurodivergent education and shifting away from focusing only on one’s deficits.
    • The gifts that come with being neurodivergent. The important role neurodivergent people play in making sure our societal “tribe” thrives.
    • Addressing the question, “What happens when the ‘traditional ways’ of child-rearing and educating are not working?” Teresa provides insight to help us stop “the continuation of struggle” and instead become curious, ask questions, find community, and explore different opportunities.

    If your family faces challenges with education, you don’t have to accept your current reality if it doesn’t feel right. There are options, and this episode serves as a stepping stone onto your new path.

    **Resources**

    • https://www.reel2e.org/
    • Books by Dr. Thomas Armstrong: https://www.institute4learning.com/book-table/
    • ADHD 2.0 by Dr. Hallowell and Dr. Ratey: https://drhallowell.com/read/books-by-ned/
    • Ross Green’s work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvzQQDfAL-Q
    • Uniquely Human by Barry Prizant: https://barryprizant.com/uniquely-human/


    **Contact Teresa**

    • Teresa@reel2e.org

    ***Music credits***

    Uppbeat (free for Creators!); https://uppbeat.io/t/hartzmann/clear-sky; License code: GQGN7ICA9D8IDOUT

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    1 hr and 21 mins

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