In this episode of Hey Charles, Charles Ernst interviews Dr. Anna Marie Frank to discuss the connection between brain health, personal well-being, and workplace performance. Dr. Frank shares her powerful personal journey of overcoming depression through holistic health practices and challenges the conventional “sick care” approach. She emphasizes the importance of addressing foundational wellness—nutrition, mindset, and sleep—to combat stress, burnout, and poor employee performance. Dr. Frank highlights her work with companies, showing how tailored wellness programs and mindset coaching can reduce behavioral health claims, improve employee morale, and boost ROI. With practical examples like meal prep classes, small group coaching, and mindset-shifting tools, the episode offers actionable strategies for business owners and organizations to foster healthier, more productive teams.

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Key Moments:

Redefining Mental Health as Brain Health (00:02:31 - 00:03:15): Dr. Frank explains her belief that the issue is not mental health but brain health, highlighting how nutrition, sleep, and stress directly impact overall well-being.

Dr. Frank’s Personal Journey (00:03:37 - 00:04:23): She shares her story of hitting rock bottom in her 20s after being prescribed mind-altering medications and her decision to rewire her brain and heal naturally.

The Domino Effect of Poor Health Choices (00:04:56 - 00:05:44): Dr. Frank outlines how poor nutrition, lack of sunlight, and over-exercising created a “perfect storm” that damaged her brain health.

Blaming External Circumstances (00:08:46 - 00:09:14): She discusses how people often blame events like bad bosses or stressful jobs, when the real issue is neglecting foundational health habits.

The Symphony of Wellness (00:16:07 - 00:16:51): Dr. Frank explains that health and wellness should be treated as a “symphony,” where all aspects—nutrition, mindset, and lifestyle—work together holistically.

Corporate ROI on Wellness Programs (00:23:57 - 00:24:23): She shares a powerful example of a company saving $2.4 million in behavioral health claims through a comprehensive employee wellness program.

Practical Wellness Initiatives (00:29:44 - 00:30:28): Dr. Frank details engaging initiatives like cooking classes, mocktail workshops, and small-group mindset coaching, all aimed at creating healthier, more productive employees.