Episodes

  • Music and the Esoteric Imagination - A Talk with Trey Spruance of Mr. Bungle and Secret Chiefs 3
    Nov 30 2024

    For episode 10 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome the musician, composer, and producer Trey Spruance. We discuss (3:42)Trey’s early musical and occult explorations and how reading the philosopher Henry Corbin changed the course of his life. Trey then takes us through the esoteric dimensions of Secret Chiefs 3 (22:59) and how albums like Book M and Book of Horizons are filled with correspondences to Kabbalah, astrology, Hermetic magic, and Pythagorean musicology. Along the way, we touch on Trey’s work with John Zorn and Kronos Quartet, his conversion to Eastern Orthodox Christianity, and the afterlives of Saint Cyprian the Mage.

    LINKS
    Web of Mimicry website
    Book M
    Book of Horizons
    Book of Souls: Folio A
    The Book Beri'ah, Vol. 10: Malkhut
    Xaphan: Book of Angels, Vol. 9
    Perichoresis
    Link to the G.I. Gurdjieff Conference at Harvard Divinity School, Dec 4-5th

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    1 hr and 47 mins
  • Religion, Technology, and Extraterrestrial Intelligences – A Talk with Diana Pasulka
    Oct 30 2024

    For episode nine, we welcome to the show Diana Pasulka, Professor of Religious Studies at UNC – Wilmington. Her books American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology and Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences are both classics in the field of Religion and Technology studies. We discuss how Pasulka’s early work on Catholic purgatory led her to the study of UFOs, the spiritual practices of experiencers, and the role of government (dis)information and popular culture in the rise of UFO religion. On the way, we touch on A.I., revelations, St. Teresa of Avila, sleep paralysis, and the perils and possibilities of new technologies.

    LINKS
    Diana Pasulka's Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture
    American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology
    Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences
    "From Purgatory to the UFO Phenomenon: The Catholic Supernatural Goes Galactic"
    Keith Cantu's Om-gnosis video podcast

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Dreams, Creativity, and Precognition – a talk with Eric Wargo
    Sep 23 2024

    For our eighth episode, we welcome the author Eric Wargo to the show. Eric is perhaps the world’s foremost expert on precognition. His most recent book, From Nowhere, examines precognition in its relationship to creativity in the lives of major authors and artists. We discuss the nature of time, dreamwork, memories from the future, and the four-dimensional brain. Along the way, we discuss figures like Virginia Woolf, Philip K. Dick, Andrei Tarkovsky, Sigmund Freud, and the sculptor, Michael Richards.

    NOTES

    Eric Wargo's work:

    • Blog "The Nightshirt"
    • From Nowhere: Artists, Writers, and the Precognitive Imagination
    • Time Loops
    • Precognitive Dreamwork and the Long Self: Interpreting Messages from Your Future

    An exhibit of Michael Richards' Sculpture

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    1 hr and 48 mins
  • Psychedelics, California, and the Cultures of Consciousness - A Talk with Erik Davis.
    Apr 30 2024

    For episode 7, we welcome the writer and scholar Erik Davis (4:06) to reflect on the journey that led to his new book, BLOTTER: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium. We discuss Erik’s writing for the Village Voice in the early 90s, his breakthrough monograph Techgnosis, and how his home state of California informs his oeuvre. In the second half of the interview, we discuss the academic study of “the weird,” perils and possibilities for the psychedelic renaissance, and how BLOTTER is a love letter to LSD.

    LINKS

    • Blotter book launch event 4/30
    • Erik's website
    • Burning Shore
    • Blotter: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium
    • Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information
    • High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies
    • Led Zeppelin IV 33/13
    • Nomad Codes: Adventures in Modern Esoterica
    • Visionary State

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    2 hrs
  • Inside the Mind of a Spirit Channel - A Conversation with Paul Selig
    Feb 16 2024

    For our sixth episode, we welcome the spirit channel, teacher, and playwright Paul Selig. In this conversation 8:14, we explore Selig’s early career as a playwright and professor, his spiritual awakening during the Harmonic Convergence of 1987, how he cultivated his mediumship abilities, and the twelve books Selig has channeled from “the Guides.” On the way, we explore what happens to Selig in the channeling state and the metaphysics of mind that make these states possible.

    LINKS
    Paul Selig's Website
    Selig, I Am the Word
    A Course in Miracles
    Ann Braude, Radical Spirits
    Ed. Cathy Gutierrez, Handbook of Spiritualism and Channeling
    Taves, Revelatory Events
    Jane Roberts, Seth Speaks

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Ecstatic Knowledge and the Study of Religion - featuring Jeffrey Kripal
    Dec 7 2023

    For episode five of the pod, we are honored to welcome Jeffrey J. Kripal, J. Newton Rayzor Chair of Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University. In this career-spanning chat 10:36 we discuss Kripal’s Catholic upbringing, psychoanalysis, and the ecstatic experience in Calcutta that changed the direction of his career. From there, we touch on Jeff’s role at Esalen, historical mystics and paranormal powers, telepathic insects, and how the study of religion and popular culture come together in film, comedy, and music.

    NOTES

    Peripheries No. 6 launch event
    Jeffrey J. Kripal's personal website
    Jeffrey Kripal, Mutants and Mystics
    Kripal, The Superhumanities
    Kripal, Authors of the Impossible
    Kripal, Kali's Child
    Kripal, How to Think Impossibly
    The Archives of the Impossible
    Hellier, season 1
    Hellier, season 2
    Esalen's Center for Theory and Research

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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • Monsters, Fictional Worlds, and the Repressed Supernatural - a talk with Victoria Nelson
    Oct 30 2023

    For episode four, we welcome the acclaimed novelist and scholar Victoria Nelson. Nelson is the academic doyen of what is today labeled Occulture Studies. Her first monograph on the supernatural in popular culture, The Secret Life of Puppets (2001), practically willed the field into existence. The follow-up book, Gothicka (2012), theorized shifts in popular culture that we are living through today. In this interview we discuss Victoria’s early life, her first forays into fiction, and explore expressions of what Nelson terms the “repressed supernatural” in androids, vampires, and hyperreal religions.

    Victoria Nelson is a writer of fiction, criticism, and memoir. Her books include The Secret Life of Puppets, a study of the supernatural grotesque in Western culture that won the Modern Language Association’s Scaglione Prize for Comparative Literary Studies in 2002, and Gothicka, which won the Association of American Publishers PROSE (Professional and Scholarly Excellence)Award in Literature in 2012. A novel, Neighbor George, came out in 2021. She was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2016 and teaches in Goddard College’s MFA creative writing program.

    ####Show Notes
    Victoria Nelson, The Secret Life of Puppets
    V. Nelson, Gothicka
    V. Nelson, Neighbor George
    Bruno Schulz, The Street of Crocodiles and Other Stories
    Victoria Nelson on the Weird Studies Podcast
    Stephenie Meyer, The Twilight Saga
    Harold Bloom, The American Religion
    The website of Paul Selig

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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Aliens, Eros, and Life After Death - An Interview with Whitley Strieber
    Sep 17 2023

    For our third episode, we welcome the #1 New York Times best-selling author Whitley Strieber. Whitley discusses his boyhood as a Roman Catholic, the erotic dimensions of alien contact, his lifelong meditative practice, evolving views of the afterlife, and the recent U.S. Congressional testimony concerning Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs).

    Whitley Strieber is the author of Communion, one of the most iconic books in the literature of the unexplained and the bestselling nonfiction book on UFO-related subjects in history. His most recent book about alien contact is Them, published in 2023. In 2021, he published Jesus: A New Vision, and in 2022, A New World. Both Them and A New World are follow-ons to Communion that extend his research beyond personal issues of contact and into broader areas.
    He is the author of over 40 other books, including the Wolfen, the Hunger and Superstorm, all, like Communion, made into films.

    Pop Apocalypse now has email! Please reach out to us at popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu with any queries.

    References from the episode:
    The Afterlife Revolution
    The Super Natural, by Jeffrey Kripal and Whitley Strieber.
    American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka
    Passport to Magonia by Jacques Vallee
    Intimate Alien by David Halperin
    The Myth and Mystery of UFOs by Thomas Bullard

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    1 hr and 32 mins