Real Organic Podcast

By: Real Organic Project
  • Summary

  • Farmers interview scientists, activists, politicians, and authors engaged in protecting USDA organic food against an active corporate takeover. Real Organic Project released its add-on food label in stores and markets in 2021, and is focused on introducing eaters across the United States to our movement and its allies. In this podcast series, you'll meet the best organic and regenerative farmers around, as well as journalists, climate experts, policy makers and chefs (Dr. Vandana Shiva, Paul Hawken, Leah Penniman, Bill Mckibben, Alice Waters, Dan Barber, and Eliot Coleman - to name a few!) who support our mission and have lent their voices and insights to explaining the importance of keeping corporate cheaters out of the real food movement. As bad players aim to redefine what food is for the sake of their own profits, we believe there is too much at stake for both human and planetary health today and into the future. Feed the soil, not the plant!!

    © 2025 Real Organic Podcast
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  • Scott Park: A Normal CA Farm Farmed Abnormally
    Jan 12 2025

    #205: Organic California field and row crop farmer Scott Park details the success he's found with his low-input, targeted tillage operation for a room full of real organic certified farmers. Primarily a tomato grower for canneries, Scott's does not shy away from sharing his experiences with slippery price negotiations and the headaches around the regenerative movement's lack of enforceable standards. Scott's full talk and excellent slides can be viewed on our YouTube channel:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdGiGqNTf2M

    Scott Park and his son Brian run Park Farming Organics in Meridien, CA and are known for investing excess time, money, and effort into thoughtful experiments aimed at growing food in concert with nature. Scott was the main speaker at our Farmer Friday event this past September, which was held one day before at our conference at Churchtown Dairy in Hudson, New York - Real Organic: A World Movement.

    https://parkfarmingorganics.com/

    To watch a video version of this podcast with access to the full transcript and links relevant to our conversation, please visit:

    https://realorganicproject.org/scott-park-normal-ca-farm-farmed-abnormally

    The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.

    The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce, and pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs from products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).

    To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/farms

    We believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be, but that the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing the ability for small farms who adhere to the law to stay in business. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but still paying a premium price. And the lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.

    If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000 Real Friends:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/real-organic-friends/

    To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

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    27 mins
  • Anna Jones-Crabtree at Chuchtown: Farming With Nature
    Jan 5 2025

    #204: Organic grain farmer Anna Jones-Crabtree shares an emotional glimpse into the real and challenging issues she and her husband Doug face as they try to align their nature-first stewardship practices with the reality of operating in an economic system that favors extractive agriculture. Anna spoke this past September at our Churchtown Dairy event in Hudson, New York, Real Organic: A World Movement.

    Anna Jones-Crabtree and her husband Doug own and operate Vilicus Farms in northern Montana where they manage thousands of acres of mixed grains and lentils alongside beneficial plantings for pollinators and other wildlife. She holds a masters degree in engineering and served as the Lead of Sustainable Operations for the National Forest Service.

    https://vilicusfarms.com/

    To watch a video version of this podcast with access to the full transcript and links relevant to our conversation, please visit:

    https://realorganicproject.org/anna-jones-crabtree-at-churchtown-2024-farming-with-nature

    The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.

    The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce, and pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs from products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).

    To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/farms

    We believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be, but that the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing the ability for small farms who adhere to the law to stay in business. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but still paying a premium price. And the lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.

    If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000 Real Friends:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/real-organic-friends/

    To read our weekly newsletter (which might just be the most forwarded newsletter on the internet!) and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

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    36 mins
  • Renee Lertzman: Successful Activism With Project Inside Out
    Dec 29 2024

    #203: In her work helping activist organizations and environmental change-makers succeed in their journeys towards truly positive impact, Renee Lertzman of Project InsideOut studies why change is so difficult. She examines the different parts inside each of us, and how they often battle to choose which path we will follow as they react to the daily pressures we each face.

    Renee Lertzman is a professor, psychsocial researcher and the founder of Project InsideOut. She teaches Psychology of Environmental Education and Communication in the MA programme at Royal Roads University, British Columbia, Canada, and has a PhD in Psychosocial Studies from Cardiff University, UK. and actively speaks and teaches internationally.

    https://projectinsideout.net/

    To watch a video version of this podcast please visit:

    https://realorganicproject.org/renee-lertzman-project-inside-out-episode-two-hundred-three

    The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and edited and produced by Jenny Prince.

    The Real Organic Project is a farmer-led movement working towards certifying 1,000 farms across the United States this year. Our add-on food label distinguishes soil-grown fruits and vegetables from hydroponically-raised produce, and pasture-raised meat, milk, and eggs from products harvested from animals in horrific confinement (CAFOs - confined animal feeding operations).

    To find a Real Organic farm near you, please visit:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/farms

    We believe that the organic standards, with their focus on soil health, biodiversity, and animal welfare were written as they should be, but that the current lack of enforcement of those standards is jeopardizing the ability for small farms who adhere to the law to stay in business. The lack of enforcement is also jeopardizing the overall health of the customers who support the organic movement; customers who are not getting what they pay for at market but still paying a premium price. And the lack of enforcement is jeopardizing the very cycles (water, air, nutrients) that Earth relies upon to provide us all with a place to live, by pushing extractive, chemical agriculture to the forefront.

    If you like what you hear and are feeling inspired, we would love for you to join our movement by becoming one of our 1,000 Real Fans!

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/1000-real-fans/

    To read our weekly newsletter and get firsthand news about what's happening with organic food, farming and policy, please subscribe here:

    https://www.realorganicproject.org/email/

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    51 mins

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People need to know

This information needs to get out into the public

People are buying organic thinking that it’s really ORGANIC and they want to KNOW that they aren’t buying some imposter crap

why are we paying the higher prices unless it is actually better and the animals are treated the way they should be?

It’s all because corporate America wants to make more money and be an imposter in order to do it.

My mother was on the National Organic Standards Board in 1992 and there were people there literally taking her aside in a hallway and asking her “now what about pesticides?” and she just thought
what about pesticides? This is about organic standards.

she almost wanted to give up
but then she thought “no I can’t let THEM take over”

The rules HAVE to be enforced.
Big Ag only believes in one thing: big profits

Jon Tester for President! But first
run the USDA.

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Great job

I enjoyed listening and feel sorry the dairy farmer industry is fighting corporate greed and subpar quality dairy products. Good luck and thank you for all the hard work.

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