Ilana and Cristina get f*cking serious with Clinical Psychologist, Dr. Alisa Angelone, Ph.D. She’s done a lot of research, and we’re not talking about TikTok rabbit holes. She’s got some hot takes on anxiety and depression. Ilana confesses to screaming at her therapist (she has since apologized - and changed therapists). Cristina’s MIL (who happens to be a therapist) will not let her talk for more than 50 min, and now we know why. Alisa breaks down the meaning of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (No humans were caged for these therapies). Is finding a therapist a giant pain in the butt? It sure is! Dr. Angelone’s advice, check with your health insurance and have them send you a list and do your research - Psychology Today is a good resource.

Endorsements: magnesium citrate, Dr. Huberman lab may help you sleep, and hey, it’s okay to be misunderstood! What does that mean? Listen to find out, and hey, if you don't get it, that's totally cool. We are FINE with that.

Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer and editor Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Writer and Performer Michael J Feldman shares his insights, diagnosis, and explains how during the pandemic, he ended up doing a solo show as his dog. Hey, would you rather die on the Titanic listening to screams or sweet music? Cristina and Ilana chat with Michael about anxiety vs depression and how to ride those waves. Michael shares the horror story about one of the last times he performed his solo show, “No, But I’m definitely In A Better Place Than I’ve Been In A Long Time.” An experience that may be just the thing that gets him to perform the show again.

Michael's credits include; The Neighbors, A.P. Bio, Not Dead Yet, (not to be confused for Dead To Me, which Ilana did - but mom’s tired!). We all know you can only change yourself, but we love a good reminder - thanks Byron Katie. Gotta work on your own sh*t, stay in your lane, baby! And hey, don’t forget to celebrate the little wins, especially NOW!

Endorsements: Tara Brach meditation, Go Tribe, Nichiren Buddhism, daily chanting, and Traveling to Italy.

Special mentions: Dynasty Typewriter, Marc Maron, Ziva mediation, Burning Man, Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and Coach Krickit…thanks for making Ilana push through - even if she was crying on the rower.

Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Cristina & Ilana talk to Nthenya Dunda- self defined performer. But first, listen as they solve the great mystery of how the F*ck Cristina is on 600 mgs of Wellbutrin and how Ilana overcame diabetes in one week! During the interview they’ll talk comedy college tours, fulfilling your parent’s dreams, why your sink doesn’t work (Hint: it’s your kid), and Cristina shares her daily mantra “Next step, Next step!” Also F*ck therapy - just go see a show! (JK - don’t actually ditch your therapist).

Nthenya talks about her script, “Domesticate Me,” meanwhile her angry feminist mother is whispering, “You don’t need to get married.” She also reveals how she managed to become an artist despite having overachieving, academic, Kenyan parents. Also: shoutout to all the Zoloft honeys out there!

Go check Nthenya out in Vegas at The Jimmy Kimmel Club. And don’t be fooled by the lack of stoner vibes - she enjoys a good edible - but don’t we all!

ENDORSEMENTS: Ilana performing in drag as JD Vance, Ardell Duralash Pro eye lashes, 356 Days of Nthenya on stage! Go check her out!

Nthenya Dunda

Nthenya From Kenya

Special Mentions: The Lyric Hyperion, Parallel Play, Heather Pasternick, Beth Stelling, Magnesium Citrate and Frozen 2. Also Leonora Pitts for passing along Elsa's wisdom.

If you’d like to sponsor this show reach out to us at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Cristina and Ilana introduce themselves, share their official diagnosis, and current medical treatment. They’ll also talk about being actors, ADHD, daddy issues and explore how the hell Cristina is on 600 Mgs of Wellbutrin.

Ilana will do a terrible Jennifer Coolidge impression (she’s working on it). They’ll play, “This is how old I am” where Cristina talks about drinking Carlo Rossi on a Spirit Airline flight and Ilana admits that she may have been the first and last person to ever fly with a Kombucha mushroom in a Nalgene bottle, thank you Virgin Airlines.

You may notice they refer to themselves as the Totally Mental Podcast, did they change their name four episodes in? Keep listening to find out!

ENDORSEMENTS: We went a little overboard this episode, we were pumped! Normally we’ll have one each, but this week we went BIG so go check out all these great things!

Oren Kaplan and Matt Enlow’s podcast: Just Shoot It.

Want to sleep better for free? Sleep Magic Podcast.

Move that BODY! If you live in LA, do yourself a favor and get to Melissa Schade’s Dance Class for the most fun.

Or just google yourself a Zumba class, they are EVERYWHERE!

If you’re in LA, but grew up in New Jersey, get yourself to Garibaldina Society for the 1980’s wedding vibe and a dope chocolate fountain.

Mind blowing perspective! Dr. Huberman does some eye techniques that calmed Cristina’s nerves, maybe you can use them too!

Special mentions, Liam Sullivan and Leslie Stevens.

Thank you to our producer Elizabeth Baquet, sound engineer and editor Kevin Luu, and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely.

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Welcome to That’s So Mental. Each week, comedians Ilana Cohn Sullivan and Cristina Fernandez will dive deep into the labyrinth that is the human brain.

These ladies have no business giving advice on mental health, but they sure do have a lot of opinions and some experience with full blown mental breakdowns.

Alongside guest artists and actual mental health experts Cristina and Ilana explore what makes them tick, artistic blocks, and what it’s like to cope with a creative mind.

Join them as they discuss different topics including motherhood, menopause, addiction to list making and psychedelic therapies.

Follow along on the journey!

Follow Ilana @ilanainla & Cristina @theonecristinafernandez on Instagram.

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