"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

By: Erik Torenberg Nathan Labenz
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  • A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
    2023
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  • Emad Mostaque on the Intelligent Internet and Universal Basic AI

    Emad Mostaque on the Intelligent Internet and Universal Basic AI
    Dec 25 2024
    In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan interviews Emad Mostaque, former Founder and CEO of Stability AI and Founder of The Intelligent Internet. We explore humanity's future with AI, from the stark 50-50 survival odds to Emad's optimistic vision for universal basic intelligence. Join us for a fascinating discussion about open-source AI infrastructure, the three-tier system of the Intelligent Internet, and how blockchain technology might help fund global public goods in AI development. Check out Emad's publications on: Emad's Twitter: https://x.com/emostaque Emad's Blog: https://emad.posthaven.com/ Intelligent Internet Substack: https://intelligentinternet.substack.com/p/ii-intelligent-internet-primer?r=47215t&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true The Cognitive Revolution Ask Me Anything and Listener Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aYv2XLID7RqGxj2_Y4_6x9mo_aqXcGCeLw1EQhy4IpY/edit Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse SPONSORS: GiveWell: GiveWell has spent over 17 years researching global health and philanthropy to identify the highest-impact giving opportunities. Over 125,000 donors have contributed more than $2 billion, saving over 200,000 lives through evidence-backed recommendations. First-time donors can have their contributions matched up to $100 before year-end. Visit https://GiveWell.org, select podcast, and enter Cognitive Revolution at checkout to make a difference today. SelectQuote: Finding the right life insurance shouldn't be another task you put off. SelectQuote compares top-rated policies to get you the best coverage at the right price. Even in our AI-driven world, protecting your family's future remains essential. Get your personalized quote at https://selectquote.com/cognitive Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive 80,000 Hours: 80,000 Hours is dedicated to helping you find a fulfilling career that makes a difference. With nearly a decade of research, they offer in-depth material on AI risks, AI policy, and AI safety research. Explore their articles, career reviews, and a podcast featuring experts like Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei. Everything is free, including their Career Guide. Visit https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to start making a meaningful impact today. CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) Teaser (00:00:36) About the Episode (00:04:33) Intro (00:09:15) AI Risk (00:16:58) Sponsors: GiveWell | SelectQuote (00:19:48) AI Goals (00:23:52) AI Divergence (00:27:50) AI & Agency (00:32:18) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | 80,000 Hours (00:34:57) Kids & AI (00:39:50) Intelligent Internet (00:48:37) Open vs. Closed AI (00:53:30) AI Runaway (01:01:46) Building the Future (01:05:43) Energy & AI (01:15:19) Hypernodes (01:27:36) Proof of Beneficial Compute (01:38:28) Distributed Compute (01:45:10) Intelligent Internet Company (01:48:37) Finding Talent (01:55:33) Pause Letter (01:59:50) Regulation (02:04:04) Speed Limits (02:06:42) Data Filtering (02:10:54) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
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    2 hrs and 12 mins
  • Can AIs do AI R&D? Reviewing REBench Results with Neev Parikh of METR

    Can AIs do AI R&D? Reviewing REBench Results with Neev Parikh of METR
    Dec 21 2024
    In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores METR's groundbreaking REBench evaluation framework with Neev Parikh. We dive deep into how this new benchmark assesses AI systems' ability to perform real machine learning research tasks, from optimizing GPU kernels to fine-tuning language models. Join us for a fascinating discussion about the current capabilities of AI models like Claude 3.5 and GPT-4, and what their performance tells us about the trajectory of artificial intelligence development. Check out METR's work: blog post: https://metr.org/blog/2024-11-22-evaluating-r-d-capabilities-of-llms/ paper: https://metr.org/AI_R_D_Evaluation_Report.pdf jobs: https://hiring.metr.org/ The Cognitive Revolution Ask Me Anything and Listener Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aYv2XLID7RqGxj2_Y4_6x9mo_aqXcGCeLw1EQhy4IpY/edit Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse SPONSORS: GiveWell: GiveWell has spent over 17 years researching global health and philanthropy to identify the highest-impact giving opportunities. Over 125,000 donors have contributed more than $2 billion, saving over 200,000 lives through evidence-backed recommendations. First-time donors can have their contributions matched up to $100 before year-end. Visit https://GiveWell.org, select podcast, and enter Cognitive Revolution at checkout to make a difference today. SelectQuote: Finding the right life insurance shouldn't be another task you put off. SelectQuote compares top-rated policies to get you the best coverage at the right price. Even in our AI-driven world, protecting your family's future remains essential. Get your personalized quote at https://selectquote.com/cognitive Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive Weights & Biases RAG++: Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today. CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) Teaser (00:01:04) About the Episode (00:05:14) Introducing METR (00:07:36) Specialization of AI Risk (00:09:52) AI R&D vs. Autonomy (00:12:41) Benchmark Design Choices (00:16:04) Benchmark Design Principles (Part 1) (00:18:54) Sponsors: GiveWell | SelectQuote (00:21:44) Benchmark Design Principles (Part 2) (00:22:35) AI vs. Human Evaluation (00:26:55) Optimizing Runtimes (00:36:02) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Weights & Biases RAG++ (00:38:20) AI Myopia (00:43:37) Optimizing Loss (00:47:59) Optimizing Win Rate (00:50:24) Best of K Analysis (01:02:26) Best of K Limitations (01:09:04) Agent Interaction Modalities (01:12:34) Analyzing Benchmark Results (01:17:16) Model Performance Differences (01:22:49) Elicitation and Scaffolding (01:27:08) Context Window & Best of K (01:35:17) Reward Hacking & Bad Behavior (01:43:47) Future Directions & Hiring (01:46:20) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/
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    1 hr and 48 mins
  • Breakthroughs in AI for Biology: AI Lab Groups & Protein Model Interpretability with Prof James Zou

    Breakthroughs in AI for Biology: AI Lab Groups & Protein Model Interpretability with Prof James Zou
    Dec 18 2024
    Nathan discusses groundbreaking AI and biology research with Stanford Professor James Zou from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore two remarkable papers: the virtual lab framework that created novel COVID treatments with minimal human oversight, and InterPLM's discovery of new protein motifs through mechanistic interpretability. Join us for an fascinating discussion about how AI is revolutionizing biological research and drug discovery. Got questions about AI? Submit them for our upcoming AMA episode + take our quick listener survey to help us serve you better - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSefHvs1-1g5xeqM7wSirQkzTtK-1fgW_OjyHPH9DvmbVAjEzA/viewform SPONSORS: SelectQuote: Finding the right life insurance shouldn't be another task you put off. SelectQuote compares top-rated policies to get you the best coverage at the right price. Even in our AI-driven world, protecting your family's future remains essential. Get your personalized quote at https://selectquote.com/cognitive Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive 80,000 Hours: 80,000 Hours is dedicated to helping you find a fulfilling career that makes a difference. With nearly a decade of research, they offer in-depth material on AI risks, AI policy, and AI safety research. Explore their articles, career reviews, and a podcast featuring experts like Anthropic CEO Dario. Everything is free, including their Career Guide. Visit https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to start making a meaningful impact today. GiveWell : GiveWell has spent over 17 years researching global health and philanthropy to identify the highest-impact giving opportunities. Over 125,000 donors have contributed more than $2 billion, saving over 200,000 lives through evidence-backed recommendations. First-time donors can have their contributions matched up to $100 before year-end. Visit https://GiveWell.org select podcast, and enter Cognitive Revolution at checkout to make a difference today. CHAPTERS: CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) Teaser (00:00:35) About the Episode (00:04:30) Virtual Lab (00:08:09) AI Designs Nanobodies (00:14:43) Novel AI Pipeline (00:20:31) Human-AI Interaction (Part 1) (00:20:33) Sponsors: SelectQuote | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) (00:23:22) Human-AI Interaction (Part 2) (00:32:31) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | GiveWell (00:35:10) Project Cost & Time (00:41:04) Future of AI in Bio (00:45:46) InterPLM: Intro (00:50:30) AI Found New Concepts (00:55:02) Discovering New Motifs (00:57:14) Limitations & Future (01:01:32) Outro SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast
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    1 hr and 3 mins

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