In this episode of the Wonderland on Points Podcast, we’re joined by one of our favorite fellow podcasters, Devon Gimbel from Point Me To First Class. Devon is a master at helping business owners turn everyday expenses into thousands of dollars worth of free travel. Whether you have a high-spending business or are just getting started with a side hustle, Devon shares her expert tips for making your business spend work harder for you.

We dive into the best credit card options for every type of business, including those with smaller budgets. Devon also helps us navigate the ins and outs of using credit cards for tax payments, and shares her advice for maximizing rewards no matter the size of your business. She also tells us all about her most aspirational redemptions, and we discuss sweet spots flights out of Chicago.

Even if you don’t own a business, this episode is full of valuable insights that anyone can apply to their personal travel goals. We talk about how “first class” isn’t just about the seat—it’s about making your dream travel experiences a reality.

Tune in to learn how to maximize your spending, earn more rewards, and turn your dream vacation into a reality!

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This week on our Mid-Week Mini episode of Wonderland on Points, Mary Ellen shares details about her quick trip to D.C. with a couple of girlfriends for a mom's getaway. They were able to stay at the Grand Hyatt D.C. for $0 out of pocket by using credit card points, and even upgraded their experience with a Club Access Award for access to the lounge, which provided free food. Mary Ellen tells us all about the hotel and the free excursions nearby. Plus, listen in for a funny story about a restaurant mishap when they tried to have the famous 40-layer lasagna. This episode may be short, but it’s absolutely jam-packed with tips and inspiration that will make you want to plan your own getaway with friends!

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Welcome to Wonderland on Points! In today’s episode, Jo shares her unforgettable stay at the Manchester Grand Hyatt in San Diego, where she enjoyed exclusive perks and luxury accommodations. Jo covers how to use Club Access Awards and Guest of Honor bookings to unlock VIP upgrades and amenities, giving you insider tips to elevate your hotel experience.

Beyond the hotel, Jo dives into San Diego tips—from the best ways to navigate the airport and rent a car, to must-see excursions and family-friendly activities. She also shares tips on how to maximize your rewards points for everything from hotel stays to unique experiences around the city.

If you’re planning a trip to San Diego, this episode is packed with actionable advice and insider secrets to help you make the most of your getaway. Tune in for everything you need to know about booking a luxurious, stress-free San Diego vacation!

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