
Rock and Sand
An Orthodox Appraisal of the Protestant Reformers and Their Teachings
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Father Josiah Trenham
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This audiobook has been made for three purposes. First, to provide the Orthodox listener with a competent overview of the history of Protestantism and its major traditions, from its beginnings in the 16th century to the present day. This overview relies heavily upon the Reformer's own words as well as the creeds of various Protestant faiths in order to avoid misrepresentation and caricature.
Second, to acquaint Orthodox and non-Orthodox listeners with a narrative of the historical relations between the Orthodox East and the Protestant West.
Finally, to provide a summary of Orthodox theological opinion on the tenets of Protestantism.
©2018 Archpriest Josiah Trenham (P)2019 Archpriest Josiah TrenhamListeners also enjoyed...
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The preaching of the truth, brother, and the confession of Orthodoxy is more needful for us than everything else, and we must make this confession before all mankind. For this is the foundation of all who believe. On account of this confession Peter was called blessed and was appointed to bear the keys of the kingdom of God. Paul, too, bore the hope of receiving the crown of life, since he kept and preached the faith. Indeed, the whole choir of the saints who did likewise and finished the race well has been glorified. We must also build up our neighbor, as much as we are able.
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An amazing articulation of Orthodox Faith in contrast to a variety of heterodox teachings
- By Eric A Holloway on 04-12-25
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The Lord of Spirits
- An Orthodox Christian Framework for the Unseen World and Spiritual Warfare
- By: Andrew Stephen Damick
- Narrated by: Andrew Stephen Damick
- Length: 8 hrs and 7 mins
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The modern world doesn't acknowledge but is nevertheless haunted by spirits—angels, demons, and saints. In our time, many yearn to break free of the prison of a flat, secular materialism, to see and to know reality as it truly is. What is this spiritual reality like? How do we engage with it well? How do we permeate everyday life with spiritual presence?
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FOUNDATIONAL FOR BIBLICAL LITERACY
- By Daniel Egan - Catholic Timeline Company on 04-02-24
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The Orthodox Way
- Classics Series, Vol. 2
- By: Kallistos Ware
- Narrated by: Jonah Martin
- Length: 6 hrs and 27 mins
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Just as undertaking a journey into an unfamiliar land or climbing a mountain requires an experienced and knowledgeable guide, so also an experienced and trusted spiritual guide, a mystagogue, is needed for the spiritual journey, to ascend Mount Sinai and encounter the mysterious God in its darkness, and to climb Mount Tabor and behold the mystery of the transfigured Lord, and to be initiated into the mysteries of the Jerusalem above, our Mother, the Church. The Orthodox Way is such a guide, a book that takes the listener into the very mystery of God, and now speaks to us.
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An Orthodox Christian Classic
- By DAVID M OANCEA on 03-03-23
By: Kallistos Ware
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Arise O God
- The Gospel of Christ’s Defeat of Demons, Sin, and Death
- By: Andrew Stephen Damick
- Narrated by: Andrew Stephen Damick
- Length: 2 hrs and 49 mins
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The gospel of Jesus Christ is not about what Jesus can do for your life. It is not even the answer to the question, “How can I be saved?” It is the declaration of a victory. In his coming to earth, his suffering, and his Resurrection, Christ conquered demons, sin, and death. In Arise, O God, author and podcaster Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick introduces us to the spiritual war that Christ won by his victory, how we are caught in that war’s cosmic crossfire, what the true content of the gospel is—and how we are to respond.
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Clarity
- By Genevi on 08-31-21
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Welcome to the Orthodox Church
- An Introduction to Eastern Christianity
- By: Frederica Mathewes-Green
- Narrated by: Frederica Mathewes-Green
- Length: 13 hrs and 34 mins
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Welcome to the Orthodox Church - its history, theology, worship, spirituality, and daily life. This friendly guide provides a comprehensive introduction to Orthodoxy, but with a twist: listeners learn by making a series of visits to a fictitious church, and get to know the faith as new Christians did for most of history, by immersion. Mathews-Green provides commentary and explanations on everything from how to "venerate" an icon, the Orthodox understanding of the atonement, to the Lenten significance of tofu.
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Oh my!
- By IUYT749v on 03-21-17
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Acquiring the Mind of Christ
- Embracing the Vision of the Orthodox Church
- By: Sergius Bowyer
- Narrated by: Jonah Martin
- Length: 4 hrs and 27 mins
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How do we acquire this mind of Christ and where is it to be found? For the Orthodox Christian, salvation is the acquisition of this mind of Christ which is to be found in the Church. This acquisition moves us from the image of God to the likeness of God; through our obedience to this call we begin to know God and this knowledge is eternal life (John 17:3). This small book hopes to begin to answer how acquiring the mind of Christ is possible and why it is necessary in our lives today.
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Short but extremely profound
- By Jacob A. Mueller on 03-14-23
By: Sergius Bowyer
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Know the Faith
- A Handbook for Orthodox Christians and Inquirers
- By: Michael Shanbour
- Narrated by: Darrell Smith
- Length: 9 hrs and 50 mins
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Over the centuries since the Great Schism between the Eastern and Western Churches, the two groups have diverged to the point that they often no longer understand each other’s vocabulary, let alone the fundamental concepts on which each faith is built. Know the Faith is an attempt to present Orthodox Christianity in a way Western Christians can understand, grounding each point in Scripture and patristic theology, with comparisons to what Catholics and Protestants believe.
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A handbook for everyone!
- By Amazon Customer on 04-01-21
By: Michael Shanbour
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Becoming Orthodox
- A Journey to the Ancient Christian Faith
- By: Peter E. Gillquist
- Narrated by: Fr. Peter Gillquist
- Length: 5 hrs and 12 mins
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This revised edition includes a new epilogue, "Coming up on Twenty-Five Years" since the entry of the Evangelical Orthodox into the Holy Orthodox Church. This is the story of a handful of courageous men and their congregations who risked stable occupations, security and the approval of life-long friends to be obedient to God's call. It is also the story of every believer who is searching for the Church.
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Inspiring and Informative
- By Timothy D. Rask on 06-13-16
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For the Life of the World
- By: Alexander Schmemann
- Narrated by: Zachariah Mandell
- Length: 6 hrs and 31 mins
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The audiobook version of this book on an approach to the world and life within it stems from the liturgical experience of the Orthodox Church. The author understands issues such as secularism and Christian culture from the perspective of the unbroken experience of the Church, as revealed and communicated in her worship, in her liturgy—the sacrament of the world, the sacrament of the Kingdom.
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Path to reverse in Orthodoxy
- By The Angelic Knotter on 03-14-25
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On the Orthodox Faith
- Volume 3 of the Fount of Knowledge
- By: St John of Damascus
- Narrated by: Fr. Ignatius Green
- Length: 8 hrs and 52 mins
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Considered by many to be the final and crowning work of the patristic age, St John of Damascus’ On the Orthodox Faith addresses all the major areas of Christian belief: Trinitarian theology, Christology, soteriology, the sacraments, the veneration of icons, saints, relics, and much more.
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Excellent content, Poor Audio Quality
- By Phil on 03-16-23
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Reclaiming the Atonement: An Orthodox Theology of Redemption
- The Incarnate Word, Volume 1
- By: Patrick Henry Reardon
- Narrated by: John Maddex
- Length: 11 hrs and 37 mins
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In response to popular demand, Patrick Henry Reardon explores redemption and salvation through the lens of Scripture, patristics, and liturgics, as well as through history, philosophy, language, literature, and psychology. He brings all these perspectives together to show how the whole of Christ’s work—from Incarnation to Ascension—accomplishes the “at-one-ment” of God with man.
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fantastic!
- By Jordan McGuire on 02-08-24
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- Oceanmann
- 04-05-21
A treat
I learned so much and Enjoyed every minute of this book. I would recommend to everyone interested in church history and the differences between Protestants and the orthodoxy.
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- Jake Sutherland
- 12-12-23
Illuminating
Very informative and helpful in discerning what is orthodox from my Protestant up bringing! Helped me recognize where some of the thinking I encountered in Protestantism came from.
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- Anonymous User
- 02-19-24
Truth be told
I, myself was Protestant (Pentecostal) and became Orthodox. It’s been hard trying to reconcile those I love who reject Orthodoxy yet claim a deep love for Christ. Are they in the church or apart of Christ’s body, or not? This book is generous and truthful about Protestantism while giving a valid claim to Orthodoxy. I pray the Lord puts the right question’s upon each of our hearts and may He guide us into all truth.
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- J. Murguz
- 02-29-24
The well laid out discussion on reformed theology
Instrumental in my conversion to Orthodoxy. I was humbled by my lack of knowledge of the true church and impressed with the loving tone of the author
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- Caleb
- 01-14-25
clear and illuminating primer on the reformation
read by the author, this book was educational, encouraging, and humbling as a new Orthodox convert.
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- FRANK C.
- 03-31-25
Very Informative and Fairly Presented
As a layperson I was able to follow and understand the positions covered. Very helpful!
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- Bruce E. McClelland
- 07-25-19
Excellent
I would recommend Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast series called "Prophets of Doom" for a deeper dive into some of the Reformation-caused turmoil briefly mentioned in this book.
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- Chesterton Cobb
- 06-13-20
Wonderful!
Recommended reading for any Protestant whose never heard the Orthodox version of church history! Very abrasive, but right to the point.
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- Peter
- 05-21-24
Compelling
I like the clarity of the orthodox beliefs, especially when it comes to scripture and interoperating it.
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- Cheesebodia
- 06-04-19
A Pointed Appeal
AT A GLANCE:
If you haven't guessed by the title, the "Rock" represents the stability of Orthodoxy while the "Sand" represents the ever-changing nature of Protestant theology. This is a polemical work, and unashamedly so.
CONTENT:
The Protestant reformers are examined individually, with most of the time naturally going to Luther and Calvin's magisterial reformations. We are given a decent amount of historical context for each and clearly informed where their teachings diverge from historic Christian orthodoxy. The accounts are generally well-sourced and the arguments display a high degree of scholarship. Though combative, this is less a "Syllabus of Errors" and more like a selection from John Damascene. There is a clear admiration for Protestant evangelism and their high view of Scripture. The book ends with a set of letters and treatises on the topic dated 1672 - 1912.
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Fr Trenham is an academically-accomplished archpriest in the Orthodox Church in America (OCA) with a focus on Patristic studies, especially St John Chrysostom. He was once a Calvinist and this is often apparent in his style; his tone is biting and his rhetoric forceful. His popular work and teaching engages American culture from a highly traditional perspective, framing Orthodoxy as a bedrock of reason free from modernist leanings and the development of doctrine. One of his stated goals is to avoid triumphalism and he succeeds at first, though beginning around Chapter 14 this goal is largely abandoned.
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If you've ever wondered what the historical Eastern Orthodox position is towards Protestantism, this is an excellent resource. It is unfettered by modern ecumenical tendencies and follows lines of argument supported by saints in the author's tradition. Granted, many Orthodox will take issue with his tone and how the emphasis strays from focus on Christian unity; nonetheless, I appreciate that Fr Trenham is willing to stare headlong at real ideological differences and bring them into the open rather than concealing or glossing over them.
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