Episodes

  • Grit and Grace: Jamie Saunders' Ultra Journey
    Jan 11 2025

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Jamie Saunders, an ultra runner who embodies the true spirit of grit and grace.

    Jamie's journey is one of pushing limits, overcoming obstacles, and discovering the strength within. We talk about her evolution from competitive sports to tackling those grueling ultra courses, including the Miami 100 and her recent victory at the Trident 80-Miler.

    But it's not just about the miles. Jamie opens up about the power of community, the mental toughness it takes to succeed in ultra running, and the importance of finding joy in every step. We also dive into her plant-based lifestyle and how it fuels her performance.

    Jamie's story is one of passion, perseverance, and the unwavering belief in the human spirit. It's a must-listen for anyone who's ever chased a dream.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Jamie Saunders and Her Running Journey

    02:52 Transition from Soccer to Long-Distance Running

    05:24 First Experiences with Ultra Running

    08:03 Plant-Based Diet and Its Impact on Performance

    10:31 Challenges Faced During Races

    13:17 First 100-Mile Race Experience

    19:21 Comparing Miami 100 and Keys 100

    31:37 Future Races and Goals

    34:02 Journey Through Ultra Running

    35:14 The Trident 80-Miler Experience

    44:38 The Barkley Fall Classic Adventure

    57:44 Race Across Florida 200: A New Challenge

    01:10:25 Navigating Race Logistics

    01:11:48 Memorable Races and Personal Connections

    01:18:53 Challenges and Mental Toughness in Racing

    01:20:46 The Purpose Behind Running

    01:24:16 Training for Elevation in Florida

    01:33:11 Future Running Plans and Community Engagement

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    1 hr and 44 mins
  • Chasing the Natchez Trace: An FKT Journey with John Hardin & Keith Overbay
    Jan 5 2025

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up our boots and hitting the trail with John Hardin & Keith Overbay as they talk about crewing and setting the Natchez Trace FKT.

    We're not just talking about the miles and the records. We dive deep into the heart and soul of these FKT attempts, exploring the meticulous preparation, the emotional rollercoasters, and the physical challenges that push runners to their limits. It's a raw and honest look at what it takes to chase those big, audacious goals.

    But it's not just about grit and determination. We also talk about the power of community and support in the ultra world, and how those connections can lift you up when the going gets tough. It's a reminder that we're all in this together, and that shared passion can fuel incredible achievements.

    So if you've ever dreamed of chasing your own FKT, or if you're simply inspired by stories of human resilience and perseverance, this episode is a must-listen.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Guests and Their Journey

    05:39 John's Running Journey and Early Experiences

    11:28 Keith's Entry into Running and Shared Experiences

    13:54 The Natchez Trace FKT Attempt: Background and Preparation

    18:18 Preparation and Training for the FKT

    26:21 Challenges Faced During the FKT Attempt

    31:24 Final Preparations and Logistics for the FKT

    33:51 Preparation and Day One Overview

    46:56 Day Two Challenges and Adjustments

    57:22 Day Three: Injury and Mental Struggles

    01:04:35 The Struggle of Endurance

    01:08:31 Finding Strength in Pain

    01:11:53 Mental Challenges and Breakthroughs

    01:17:37 The Role of Support and Crew

    01:23:57 The Final Push to the Finish Line

    01:35:00 The Journey to the FKT

    01:42:56 The Emotional and Mental Aspects of Running

    01:48:09 Community and Connection in Trail Running

    01:52:58 The Challenges of Crewing

    01:56:04 Looking Ahead: Future Adventures


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    1 hr and 57 mins
  • Tis the Season for Ultra Adventures: A Holiday Episode
    Dec 26 2024
    It's a Christmas special on the Dirt and Vert Podcast! This week, we're taking a look back sharing the highs, the lows, and the lessons learned along the way. We dive into hydration, nutrition, and how important it is to find a community that supports your running journey. It's a reminder that we're all in this together, and those connections make all the difference. We also talk about some of our upcoming races, and offer some tips for runners of all levels. Whether you're just starting out or a seasoned pro, it's all about preparation, consistency, and finding the joy in every step. So grab a cup of hot cocoa, lace up your shoes, and join us for a Christmas episode filled with grit, gratitude, and the spirit of the ultra. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to the Christmas Special 01:48 Matt's Running Journey and Races 09:22 Training Strategies and Future Goals 18:28 12 Tips and Tricks for Runners 35:38 The Importance of Recovery 37:39 Training Specificity for Races 39:46 Strength Training Essentials 40:36 Understanding Electrolyte Balance 43:11 Finding Your Running Community 45:23 Hydration Strategies for Race Week 48:55 Gear Familiarity and Testing 54:17 Navigating the Last Miles of a 100-Miler 58:04 Terrain Awareness for Runners 01:00:23 Fueling Strategies for Endurance Races 01:02:57 Hydration Variety in Training 01:06:32 The Value of Volunteering 01:08:11 Caffeine Management for Performance 01:10:17 Challenging Yourself for Growth 01:13:17 Preparing for Races: The Importance of Drop Bags 01:14:13 Consistency in Training: The Key to Success 01:15:17 Lessons Learned: Reflections on 2024 01:17:12 Embracing Variety in Training 01:18:37 Essential Gear for Runners 01:21:50 Gift Ideas for Runners 01:23:11 Injury Updates and Recovery 01:24:34 Fueling Strategies for Ultra Races 01:25:15 Music Motivation: The Power of a Song 01:26:31 Memorable Running Moments of 2024 01:36:12 Training Tips for the New Year 01:37:33 The Role of Pacers in Races 01:40:49 Reflecting on Achievements and Community
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    1 hr and 43 mins
  • Mountain Highs: Michael Basuini's Passion for the Trails
    Dec 20 2024

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Michael Basuini, an accomplished ultra runner and coach who embodies the true spirit of the sport.

    Mike's journey is one of passion, perseverance, and a deep love for the trails. He shares his evolution from mountain biker to runner, his experiences in college athletics, and the transition to coaching others. We talk about those early ultra races, the lessons learned, and how coaching has evolved over time.

    But it's not just about training plans and finish lines. Mike dives into the importance of fueling your body, the mental fortitude it takes to tackle those tough races, and the challenges of taking on iconic events like Grindstone 100K and Never Summer 100K.

    We also explore the unique challenges of altitude running and how Mike's passion for the sport has shaped his life. It's a reminder that running isn't just about the miles; it's about the community, the personal growth, and the joy it brings to every day.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Mike Basuini

    06:16 Transitioning to Coaching and Chattanooga

    11:37 First 50K Experience and Lessons Learned

    17:24 Finding Limits in Ultra Running

    23:00 Looking Glass 50-Miler Victory

    28:33 The Impact of COVID on Coaching

    35:57 Transitioning to 100K Races

    51:07 Training for the Pinhoti 100

    01:00:03 Fueling Strategies and Lessons Learned

    01:05:59 Upcoming Races and Personal Goals

    01:13:52 The Motivation Behind Running

    01:19:45 Favorite Nutrition Choices During Races

    01:24:07 Key Lessons Learned in Ultra Running


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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • From Diagnosis to Destiny: Alicia McClary's Ultra Transformation
    Dec 13 2024

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Alicia McClary, an ultra runner whose story will leave you speechless. Alicia's journey is one of resilience, determination, and the power of the human spirit to overcome even the toughest challenges. We talk about her incredible transformation from cancer survivor to endurance athlete, and how running became her lifeline during those difficult times. Alicia opens up about the physical and mental hurdles she's faced, including a serious health scare that nearly derailed her dreams. It's a raw and honest look at the grit and determination it takes to keep going when the odds are stacked against you. We also dive into the incredible camaraderie of the ultra community, and how those connections can lift you up when you need it most. It's a beautiful reminder that we're all in this together. Alicia's story is a testament to the strength we all have within us. It's a story of hope, resilience, and the unwavering belief in the power of the human spirit. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Alicia McClary 01:25 Alicia's Journey into Running 03:14 Overcoming Cancer and Finding Purpose 06:41 The Impact of Cancer on Alicia's Life 11:55 Starting the Couch to 5K Program 14:01 Transitioning from 5K to Ultra Running 18:25 Experiences with Trail Races 20:45 Challenges Faced During Races 25:05 Understanding Rhabdomyolysis 28:35 The Importance of Hydration in Running 30:01 The Watermelon Choice: A Flavorful Start 30:47 Breaking Down the Race: Elevation and Endurance 32:04 Overcoming Challenges: The Mental Game of Racing 33:17 Hydration and Health: Lessons from Rhabdo 33:56 First Steps into Ultra Racing: The Backyard Ultra Experience 34:30 Training for Success: Building Up to the Backyard Ultra 37:43 Fueling Strategies: Real Food vs. Gels 40:25 The Competitive Spirit: Progression in Backyard Ultras 45:09 Strolling Jim: A Hilly Adventure 48:12 Community and Connection: The Heart of Racing 54:28 The Dance of the Unexpected 57:44 Overcoming Adversity in Racing 01:00:51 The Journey Through Illness and Recovery 01:10:28 Community Support in Times of Crisis 01:16:56 Inspiration from Fellow Runners 01:21:22 Exploring Future Races and Goals 01:27:56 The Motivation Behind Running 01:31:49 Favorite Distances and Events 01:36:24 Community and Support in Running 01:40:03 Race Recommendations and Future Plans


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    1 hr and 41 mins
  • Ultra RX: Rachel Drake's Prescription for Success
    Dec 7 2024
    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Rachel Drake, a newly minted doctor who also happens to be an amazing ultra runner who just shattered the women's course record at the JFK 50! Rachel's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We hear about her evolution from high school track star to ultra marathoner, including the Mackenzie River 50K where she met her husband. We dive deep into the challenges of those 100-mile races, the power of the running community, and the lessons she's learned along the way. But it's not just about breaking records. Rachel reminds us that running is about joy, personal growth, and discovering the incredible strength we all have within. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Rachel Drake 02:25 Rachel's Journey into Running 04:50 The Impact of Education on Running 09:30 Discovering Ultra Running 10:50 Lessons from the First Ultra 13:52 Transitioning to Longer Distances 19:16 Experiences in 100K Races 24:28 The Importance of Grit and Resilience 28:33 Racing in Europe: CCC and UTMB 31:01 The Black Canyon 100K and Future Goals 31:04 Navigating Race Conditions and Mental Strategies 37:19 First-Time Experiences at Western States 40:15 JFK 50: Embracing New Challenges 50:48 The Emotional Journey of Racing 56:40 Community and Connection in Running
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Ultra Rising: Whitney Dancaster's Journey of Determination
    Dec 3 2024

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we were honored to have ultra runner Whitney Dancaster join us. Her story is one of incredible resilience and determination.

    Whitney shared her inspiring journey into the world of ultras, from those early races to taking on incredible challenges like the Keys 100 and Long Haul 100. She spoke with such honesty about the obstacles she faced in her first ultra, and how she discovered the strength to overcome them.

    But it's not just about pushing limits. Whitney highlighted the incredible community within the ultra world, and how those connections can lift you up when you need it most. It's a beautiful reminder that we're all in this together.

    We also delved into her experiences at the legendary Barkley Fall Classic, a race that pushes runners to the very edge of what's possible. Whitney shared valuable lessons about respecting your body, the importance of healing, and the courage to keep going.

    Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just starting to explore the trails, Whitney's story is filled with wisdom, kindness, and a passion that will ignite your own spirit.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Whitney Dancaster

    01:29 Whitney's Journey into Ultra Running

    04:37 Military Background and Early Running Experiences

    05:31 First Encounter with Ultra Running

    09:20 The Challenges of the Keys 100

    13:44 Lessons Learned from Ultra Running

    16:55 The Mental Battle in Ultra Running

    24:44 Reflections on the Keys 100 Accident

    31:05 Memorable Experiences from Long Haul 100

    33:26 Track Ultras and Community Vibes

    35:24 Chasing Ultra Running Goals

    43:01 The Thrill of Track Ultras

    50:34 Lessons from the Long Haul 100

    01:03:02 Future Aspirations in Ultra Running

    01:04:00 The Importance of Crew in Backyard Ultras

    01:06:47 Navigating the Barkley Fall Classic

    01:15:29 Dehydration and Salt Management in Ultra Running

    01:34:00 The Endurance Athlete Mindset and Community

    01:38:38 Hydration Strategies for Endurance Runners

    01:41:40 Innovative Solutions for Race Challenges

    01:44:12 Sponsorships and Brand Partnerships in Running

    01:46:07 Choosing the Right Gear for Performance

    01:47:54 Training Insights: Overtraining vs. Undertraining

    01:50:38 Nutrition and Fueling During Races

    01:55:19 Future Goals and Upcoming Races

    01:58:08 The Rise of Female Athletes in Ultra Running



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    2 hrs and 5 mins
  • Fueling the Fire: Leah Mulligan's Passion for Running
    Nov 27 2024

    On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of sitting down with Leah Mulligan, an incredible ultra runner from Chattanooga. Leah's story is all about passion, perseverance, and the power of community.

    We traced her journey from those early running days to her leap into the ultra world, and how her family and the running community fueled her every step of the way. Leah also opened up about her training, the dynamics of working with a coach, and the challenges she faced in those first ultra races.

    But it's not just about the miles. Leah shared some incredible insights about the mental side of ultra running, the importance of staying positive, and how she balances life, running, and everything in between.

    Of course, we couldn't forget about her recent achievements! Leah talked about those podium finishes, the lessons she's learned from both victories and setbacks, and her exciting plans for future races.

    Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just starting out, Leah's story is a powerful reminder that with hard work, dedication, and a whole lot of heart, you can achieve incredible things.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Leah Mulligan and Her Running Journey

    03:00 Early Influences and Transition to Ultra Running

    06:01 College Running Experience and First Ultra

    08:40 Experiences with Early Races and Community

    11:35 First 12-Hour Race and Achievements

    14:31 First 100-Mile Race: Penhody

    17:10 The Importance of Community in Ultra Running

    20:13 Lessons Learned from Ultra Running

    23:09 Future Goals and Aspirations in Running

    33:29 Altitude Challenges and Early Experiences

    36:25 Learning from Racing: Humbling Experiences

    39:08 Running by Feel vs. Data

    42:02 Coaching and Performance Growth

    45:02 Racing in Unique Locations: CCC and Beyond

    47:30 Community and Support in Racing

    50:21 Home Races and Personal Growth

    53:15 Technical Challenges in Mountain Racing

    59:07 Crossing the Marriage Threshold Through Running

    59:53 The Blue Ridge Ultra Experience

    01:00:52 Shared Success in Racing

    01:01:49 The Balance of Life and Running

    01:03:38 Finding Joy in Running

    01:05:30 The SCAR FKT Journey

    01:10:15 Future FKT Aspirations

    01:13:06 Challenging Races Ahead

    01:17:04 The Deeper Meaning of Running

    01:24:30 Pushing Limits and Problem Solving

    01:29:00 Finding Your Race Strategy

    01:30:20 Overcoming Low Patches in Races

    01:36:44 The Journey into Coaching

    01:41:10 Building a Business Together



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    1 hr and 49 mins