On this episode of Girl Stop Playin’. I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Dr. Pam, who’s done some serious work on a topic that many of us can relate to, whether we want to admit it or not—the “mother wound.” Now listen, I’ve shared bits of my own journey with my momma, and let me tell you, this conversation hit different. Dr. Pam breaks down how the dynamics between mothers and daughters can shape us in ways we may not even realize until we grow up and start navigating life on our own.

Dr. Pam’s seen it all—from women in prison who experienced deep, severe trauma introduced by their mothers, to high-powered professionals who dealt with more subtle forms of emotional neglect. It’s wild how this mother-daughter thing shows up in so many different ways, but the impact? It's real, and it can stick with us for a long time. She even wrote a whole book about it called Surviving Mama—and trust me, this conversation is a must-listen.

We got into how, as daughters, we don’t always start seeing our moms as the flawed, complicated women they are until we grow up, get married, or become moms ourselves. That’s when the real work begins. And y’all already know I don’t hold back, so I shared how my own mom used to say, “I love you, but I don’t like you”—which was a LOT to handle growing up. But now, as an adult, I’ve gained perspective and realized just how deep those scars can go.

Dr. Pam dropped so much wisdom about the healing process, and how it’s not about blaming our moms, but about understanding the cycles of emotional immaturity and dysfunction we’ve normalized. She also shed light on how unresolved issues with our moms can bleed into sibling relationships—something I know all too well.

The biggest takeaway? Healing is possible, but it starts with awareness and giving ourselves grace. We’ve gotta face these wounds, process them, and move forward with intention. This conversation was a reminder that we are not alone in these struggles, and we have the power to heal. So sis, if you’re dealing with your own mother wounds, know that you don’t have to carry that weight forever.

Today, I have the pleasure of chatting with the incredible Dana Frank! Dana is the general managing partner of her family’s company, Frank Family Properties, and has spent the last 25 years expanding their real estate investments across Washington state and Arizona. Under her leadership, the company has been featured in the Seattle Times and celebrated for its achievements in property management.

In this episode, Dana and I dive deep into the dynamics of running a family business, the importance of creating generational wealth, and how to navigate the ups and downs of working with family. Dana shares valuable lessons on instilling a strong work ethic in your children and how to ensure they understand the value of hard work without feeling entitled.

We also touch on the current economic climate and Dana’s expert advice on investing in real estate. Plus, we discuss the changes that come with menopause and Dana’s personal journey through it, including practical tips for managing symptoms.

Tune in for an enlightening conversation filled with wisdom, practical advice, and inspiring stories that will help you navigate your personal and professional life with confidence.

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On this episode of Girl Stop Playin, you get to meet the resilient and inspiring Kristin Biggs. Kristin shares her heart-wrenching journey of overcoming unimaginable losses, including the murders of her husband and son. Despite these tragedies, Kristin has channeled her grief into a powerful mission to help others through her book, "Release & Unleash Grief," and her nonprofit organization. She discusses the importance of self-love, resilience, and finding purpose amid pain.

This episode is a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the transformative power of faith and community. Join us for an authentic and hopeful conversation that will encourage you to stop playing and start living with purpose and intention.

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