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  • How Real World Producers Use AI

    How Real World Producers Use AI
    Jun 24 2025
    The first time I heard voices I thought I was losing my mind. AI-generated voices, that is. Because I couldn't believe how "real" they sounded. Listen to the intro to this episode and tell me what YOU think. Then find the little samples of producer Jim Mullen's voice later in this episode! I'm still wrapping my head around all that is possible -- and all that has changed in the world of content creation and media production. That's exactly why I knew I had to bring together two of the most credentialed producers I know to talk about what's really happening behind the scenes with AI in our industry. The Real vs. The AI - A Producer's Perspective Jim Mullen (Mullen Media) and Yossi Kimberg are the real deal – we're talking Seinfeld, Food Network, Super Bowl halftime shows, and decades of work on Lorne Michaels shows. These guys aren't just talking theory; they're actually using these tools in production right now. AI-Generated Yossi Kimberg AI-Generated Jim Mullen What Really Struck Me Yossi's journey into AI started by making masterful still images with Leonardo, as in Leonardo.AI. As he put it: "The idea that text generates an image was beyond imagination. I was just amazed by it." But then he progressed to motion, face-swapping himself into different editing scenarios (find those in this episode, too!), and even bringing children's artwork to life. But learn what happened next that was "a bridge too far" for one particular client. Now, while Yossi's moved on to scripted motion videos all AI-generated, Jim's been experimenting with ElevenLabs for voiceovers, though he hit a hilarious snag on a project about a lack of libraries: "I couldn't get the bot to say 'desert'. It kept saying, New York City has book desserts." Not so funny to me, because once it learns contextual pronunciations, my gigs doing voiceover will dry up like a desert. (Note: I found out just today while producing this episode that I literally lost a job to an AI-generated voice. True story.) The Uncomfortable Truth Both producers agree we're not just approaching a tipping point – we're already there. Yossi believes that within 2-3 years, even the very role of managing AI might become obsolete. The technology is learning to be funny, dramatic, and emotional without human instruction. Jim pointed out something that made my stomach drop: if you can create an entire commercial with AI actors and voices (which is already happening), you eliminate hair and makeup artists, grips, gaffers, location scouts – entire production crews become unnecessary. As such, we talked about the fear factor. You know how I feel about voiceovers. Though AI helped me immensely in honing these show notes. But it's not just job displacement we're facing; it's questioning our creative thumbprint and what makes us uniquely human in this process. Plus... Copyright and Ownership Minefield We touched on some fascinating legal territory that's still being sorted out. Yossi mentioned reading legal briefs about using copyrighted images in AI training, and the emerging trend of celebrity estates licensing deceased stars' likenesses for AI projects – Steve McQueen's estate is apparently leasing his character for AI-generated content. The whole landscape of intellectual property, name-image-likeness rights, and even the ability to deny you said something ("I didn't say that, it was AI") creates a complicated web that we're all navigating in real time. (I recommend taking a listen to the brilliant Robert Tercek who allays some of those legal fears in this Insider Interviews episode from last year: https://bit.ly/Insider21-Shapiro-Tercek .) The Human Pushback But here's what gives me hope: Yossi shared how his client loved his AI-enhanced children's artwork until clients pushed back, saying it wasn't authentic to what the kids actually created. They pulled back some of the AI elements. It reminded us of the vinyl comeback – sometimes we crave imperfection and...
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  • Bonus: Memorable Experiential Marketing Experiences

    Bonus: Memorable Experiential Marketing Experiences
    Jun 2 2025
    In 10 quick but memorable minutes I'm sharing my observations and experiences with marketing strategies I had close encounters with over the recent Memorial Day weekend. From an innovative Fresh Direct pop-up, to a Rosé Soirée in the Hamptons with missed promotional opportunities, these are my thoughts on some effective ...and ineffective ... marketing tactics. And I borrow from one of the 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing, by brilliant marketing strategist, Jack Trout. First, learn how my friend Joanne (who happens to be Jack Trout's daughter) and I popped into a pop-up for Fresh Direct. We were in pursuit of coffee but got a surprise stimulating conversation with the interim CMO, instead: Jackson Jeyanayagam. He explained their strategy was to build awareness for their new delivery service and display the quality of their products "IRL." Fresh Direct PopUp store Learn which of the 22 immutable laws Jackson was aiming to apply; and the overlap with he, that law and AB InBev! Then, we had a blast sampling 20 kinds of rose', but can we remember which one we preferred -- to buy again? Blame the drinking, sure, but I think it was more the missed marketing opportunities at the Soiree. (TWO really stood out, though, which you can read about in my new Substack Newsletter, "Moss Hysteria"!) Then, I popped over the next day -- back in NYC -- to check out Cognitiv AI's pop-up at Grand Central, promoting mental health and positive news. It was a blooming success. Learn why. Overall, great experiences that showed how valuable experiential marketing can be! Key Moments: 00:32 Fresh Direct Pop-Up 03:17 The Importance of Branding and Communication 04:27 Applying Lessons from Ries & Trout's "The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing" 05:54 Event Marketing: The Rosé Soirée 09:31 Memorable Marketing: Cognitive AI Pop-Up 10:17 Get More in my NEW Newsletter, "Moss Hysteria" on Substack Please Follow, Connect & Share the Love of Insider Interviews: With Media & Marketing Experts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews Blusky: https://bsky.app/profile/mossappeal.bsky.social If you enjoyed this episode, please share with another smart business leader, give me five stars... and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify or on @YouTube. Or a tip in my jar to help me tip my producer, Jim Mullen!: https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal!
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  • The Power of Local Advertising and Impactful Reach: Premion & Mirror Digital

    The Power of Local Advertising and Impactful Reach: Premion & Mirror Digital
    May 13 2025
    It's two exclusive conversations in one episode! During the recent #possible2025 conference in Miami* I conducted two short insider interviews that were long on advertising industry insights. Peter Jones, VP of Revenue at Premion, explained why local advertising is booming, the importance of data-driven strategies, and how omnichannel measurement is revolutionizing campaign attribution Then, Sheila Marmon, Founder and CEO of Mirror Digital discussed the $6.8 trillion buying power of diverse audiences, digital innovation for inclusive marketing, and why brand are best served by connecting with multicultural consumers. Take a listen (or, watch/listen via YouTube ) and you'll understand a couple of powerful market forces reshaping advertising today: the renaissance of local advertising and the still key need for inclusive audience reach. With local advertising projected to reach $33 billion this year (growing at 16% year-over-year), Peter shares how Premion -- an industry-leading CTV/OTT ad platform with directly-sourced inventory from 125+ premium publishers -- helps advertisers make data-driven decisions that prioritize "outcomes over impressions." Learn also how local and regional advertisers can leverage the same sophisticated targeting and measurement capabilities previously available only to national brands. Did you know they are "TAG Platinum" certified? That, combined with their company approach to business, means all their inventory is brand safe. Peter also teased a pretty impressive case study of a restaurant chain is measuring direct sales impact from their advertising campaigns right off transactions. In the second segment, Sheila introduces us to the company she runs, "Mirror Digital," which has pioneered connecting brands with diverse audiences across digital platforms for over 13 years. She breaks down the misconception that multicultural audiences are "niche," (um, 43% of the pop is NOT niche!), and their combined $6.8 trillion in buying power – larger than the GDP of any European or Latin American country -- should be pretty enticing to ANY brand advertiser! Oh, and remember, that other little "niche," WOMEN, drive 80% of household purchasing decisions. It might be why Mirror Digital has worked with major brands like General Motors, Verizon, and Amazon. (I did a great interview back in 2021 with Cadillac CMO Melissa Grady Dias and we talked a little more about their approach to inclusivity, which is DEFINITELY still important, despite our political climate.) Here are some of the key moments: [00:00:29] Peter Jones introduces Premion's focus on local markets and helping regional agencies with scaled buying power [00:01:19] Why local advertising is having its moment and impressive projections for 2025 [00:03:05] The three key factors advertisers need today: inventory, data, and measurement [00:09:28] Jones' mantra of "outcomes over impressions" in advertising strategy [00:11:07] How a restaurant chain measures direct sales transactions from Premion advertising [00:14:52] Sheila Marmon on Mirror Digital's mission of connecting brands with inclusive audiences [00:15:22] Why diverse audiences aren't "niche" (and their $6T (yes, a "T") in buying power) Follow, Connect & Share the Love Connect with Peter Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonespeter/ and visit Premion: https://premion.com/ Learn about Mirror Digital and Sheila Marmon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheila-marmon-0398074/ Connect with E.B. Moss and Insider Interviews: With Media & Marketing Experts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews Blusky: https://bsky.app/profile/mossappeal.bsky.social If you enjoyed this episode, follow Insider Interviews, share with another smart business leader,
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  • A Sustainable Podcast! Throwback Bonus for Earth Month

    A Sustainable Podcast! Throwback Bonus for Earth Month
    Apr 22 2025
    In a never-more-important throwback episode from 2021, hear again from KoAnn Skrzyniarz - who for years has been making a strong case for building Sustainable Brands in global conversations with some of the world’s biggest advertisers. Learn why there's STILL a business -- and social -- value to purpose, perhaps even more so as environmental gains and progress towards sustainability are being undone with 'drill, baby, drill' threats and short-sighted profit-driven agendas. In time for Earth Month, or any time, KoAnn (frequently known by just her first name) shares not just the "whys", but some “hows”: how sustainability has moved the needle for leading brands and how to be resilient in a “VUCA” world. A what? Listen; she'll explain, and we also discuss: The impetus for creating Sustainable Brands What kind of changes has she seen in the brand and media marketplace in terms of embracing brand purpose "Twenty years ago it was not recognized that companies that understood how to innovate for environmental and social benefit were going to be the companies that survived and thrived in the 21st century." Is Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) a good description? (Hint: KoAnn explains why it's more a "business opportunity" and why the ANA [Association of National Advertisers] uses he notion of ‘good growth’. ) How companies should integrate their brand marketers and strategists, the product and service positioning teams AND the sustainability/procurement/diversity teams Is our current focus on brand purpose just another trend? How does it compare to the green rush of the 2007 timeframe or rallying around Hurricane Katrina? Have companies evolved in their mission-driven work? The data supportive of sales driven by environmental and social value propositions; What kinds of brand transformation are happening -- and at which companies? How have companies like Clorox and P&G navigated the road to sustainability? And what is a Brand Transformation Roadmap? How Sustainable Brands itself pivoted during the pandemic to salvage -- and even grow -- their world-class conferences in a VUCA world! (volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity!) Additional Links: SB Brand Transformation RoadmapSM. Sustainable Brands global conferences (Coming up Oct '25 in San Diego!) Webinar on the ROI of Sustainability (May '25) Find SB on Insta: @SustainableBrands Connect with E.B. Moss and Insider Interviews: With Media & Marketing Experts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews Blusky: https://bsky.app/profile/mossappeal.bsky.social If you enjoyed this episode, follow Insider Interviews, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar to help me tip my producer, Jim Mullen!: https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal! Share
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  • Rishad Tobaccowala: Rethinking Work, Leadership & Humans in Business

    Rishad Tobaccowala: Rethinking Work, Leadership & Humans in Business
    Apr 11 2025
    What happens when leadership loses its way — and work loses its soul, let alone its staff? In S2 Ep37 the impressive Rishad Tobaccowala, futurist, author, and former Chief Strategy / Growth Officer (now Senior Advisor) of Publicis Groupe joins me on Insider Interviews to offer a refreshingly human take on the future of work. And yes, we have a musical interlude.... The author of “Restoring the Soul of Business” and his latest, "Rethinking Work," explains what it really takes to stay relevant in marketing -- and business in general. As Rishad says, “Change Sucks. But irrelevance is worse!” First, I found out that we are both quadruple espresso fans, so if you wonder where Rishad gets his energy.... THEN I discovered we both had a thing about MATH that changed our respective trajectories*. But, after comparing our coffee rituals we go full steam into how companies need to evolve old leadership styles —from “bossing” to inspiring. Rishad shares why corporate models are in urgent need of a reset, and how flexibility, curiosity, and a human-centered approach must replace outdated hierarchies. Think “fractional workers” and project-based teams meets AI. Rishad urges organizations to stop clinging to legacy systems and start designing for the future. But, as this is primarily a show about media, marketing and advertising, (he is, after all, being inducted in the Advertising Hall of Fame) he also explores how storytelling goes hand in hand with tech and remains a marketing essential — not despite the data age, but because of it. Discover the "5 Cs" of embracing the future in Marketing. Interestingly, as former Chairman of Razorfish, his imprint may have been made on Anthony Yell, who - per Epi 30 - clearly agrees in Collaboration and merging Creativity with tech and storytelling! Of course, we talk brand purpose -- and that theme actually runs through it all, with Rishad explaining how generosity is not just as a personal value, but a business advantage. He shares how this belief drives the Tobaccowala Foundation’s work in improving access to education and healthcare in India — and why doing good can, and should, be good business. This episode is a frank but, yes, inspiring look at how to rethink work, reimagine leadership, and build companies that serve people — not just profit. *(FYI: Hear how math impacted the journey of Cadillac CMO Melissa Grady, too!) Key Moments: 01:03 Rishad Tobaccowala's Background and Award-Worthy Achievements! 02:57 The Essence of Rishad's Books - "Restoring the Soul of Business" and "Rethinking Work" 03:28 Combining Story and Data in Business 06:21 The Continuing Impact of Pandemic WFH Mentality and the Impact of AI on Work Lifestyles 07:11 Rethinking Work Now and Near Term Future Trends 11:02 Strategies for Embracing Change (Yes it "Sucks" But so Does Irrelevance!) 13:04 Building a Future-Ready Workforce 22:02 Personal Development Thru Continuous Learning 23:46 Mentorship and Leadership Advice Through Musical Metaphors (AKA: E.B. has to Sing Again) 25:37 The Crisis in Modern Leadership 26:07 Boss vs. Leader: Key Differences 32:06 Generosity as a Strategy 37:39 The Tobaccowala Foundation's Mission 39:45 The Future of Marketing and Creativity (Hint: Does Not Fit in the Containers of the Past!) 46:03 Book Summary and Can’t Miss Resources Oh, and you might WIN! ...Add a "like" and a comment on Apple, Spotify or YouTube for this episode, and I'll randomly (okay, those who LOVE the show might have an advantage!) will be entered to win a copy of Rishad's book which I'll announce on or before 4/30/25. BUT to make SURE you get your own, and to learn more about Rishad, visit: https://rethinking-work.io/whats-inside-2 Follow, Connect & Share the Love Connect with Rishad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishadtobaccowala/ Learn about Rishad/Purchase Rethinking Work: https://rethinking-work.io/ Connect with E.B.
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  • Marketing Women’s Healthcare is Win-Win

    Marketing Women’s Healthcare is Win-Win
    Mar 25 2025
    Wendy Lund isn’t just a powerhouse in healthcare marketing — she’s also a longtime family friend, thanks to her working alongside my sister Lisa years ago -- also in healthcare marketing -- then becoming neighbors and "besties." As a result, I also know Wendy is a longtime advocate for women's health, and is as passionate about promoting good information as she is about, well, her dog, Yogi! Yogi And that is one cute dog: spoiler alert in case you miss the video. As Chief Client Officer of Health@WPP, former CEO of GCI Health, and former Chief Communications Officer at Organon, Wendy has been a force in transforming how we talk about — and invest in — women’s healthcare. In May 2025 she’s being honored with the Pinnacle Award by MM+M for her leadership and impact. The Imperative for Information and Innovation around Women's Health - Health@WPP at SXSW In yet another heartfelt, informative, and often funny conversation apropos Women's History Month, Wendy explains why Health@WPP believes wise innovation, factual and frequent information around women's healthcare is an imperative. Those are the pillars driving that progress — and why that’s not just good for society, but great for business. 🧠 Innovation: Women’s Health Is a Smart Investment Wendy makes the case that women’s health should be seen as a business opportunity, not just a cause. From underdiagnosed conditions like menopause symptoms to overlooked opportunities in mobility, pain management, and nutrition, she shares how both pharma companies and mainstream brands can make a real difference — and a real impact. She points to emerging tech, from CGMs for glucose management to smarter birth control options, and even a unique innovation from Ford Motor Company — a redesigned seatbelt for women post-mastectomy. Innovation, Wendy explains, must be fueled by insights and empathy. “There are thousands of smaller innovations out there. The business community needs to see them not as one-offs, but as lasting solutions that can revolutionize care.” 📢 Information... and The Fight Against Misinformation Wendy doesn’t shy away from the pitfalls of misinformation in healthcare — especially in a digital age. Or, as I like to say, "Paging Dr. Google!" While social platforms have helped women access critical information, they’ve also opened the floodgates to false and harmful content. Wendy shares how Health@WPP has partnered with platforms like NextDoor to connect neighbors and caregivers around trusted health information — particularly around cancer — and how listening to real people’s concerns is just as critical as broadcasting solutions. “There’s a lot of information women aren’t aware of… We want to make sure they have what they need to take care of themselves — and each other.” 🚨 Imperative: Now Is the Time to Act For Wendy, women’s health is personal — and urgent. She calls on companies in every industry, from QSR to automotive, to look for authentic ways to support women’s well-being. Whether it’s creating an inflammation-free menu, investing in reproductive health, or advocating through empathetic HR policies, the opportunity is real. And yes, she also talks about the role of men as health allies — something that moved both of us deeply. From helping their wives track mammogram dates to sharing stories about caregiving, Wendy reminds us that men are essential to pushing this movement forward. But companies are key, too. In fact, she says: "Everybody has a role to play. We can’t afford to sit back. We have to push forward." ⏱ Key Highlights [00:00:10] Meet Wendy ... and Yogi [00:02:43] How Wendy’s early work at Planned Parenthood and NLN shaped her mission [00:05:35] Why women’s health is smart business: overlooked innovation opportunities [00:11:03] How Organon’s campaigns and podcast empowered real women’s voices [00:16:06] Social media’s double-edged sword in health information
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  • Mack McKelvey with the Blueprint for Startup Success

    Mack McKelvey with the Blueprint for Startup Success
    Mar 11 2025
    Mack McKelvey, Founder and CEO of SalientMG, joins me to explain why "being uncomfortable" has been a great recipe for success throughout her award-winning career in tech and marketing. With remarkable candor, Mack reveals how disruption propelled her from big tech brands like Lucent, Verisign, and British Telecom to the startup world, where she mastered being an "intrapreneur" before launching her own ventures. While I almost give away what my initials (E.B.) stand for, Mack shares the fun but sobering story behind her own name change—and a realization about "what's in a name." It definitely ties in with how it took a name change for this powerful woman, appropriately featured during Women's History Month, to go to game changer. She ultimately created SalientMG in order to offer "the kind of firm I could never find when I was on the inside"—a company staffed entirely with senior practitioners who understand the daily realities of startup marketing. This same commitment drove yet another one of her startups just last year, but this time in the form of a community appropriately called "StartUp Marketer," that democratizes access to marketing expertise with everything from templates to live advisors. As a fellow podcaster (host of "The Cred"), Mack generously shares both professional insights and personal stories—from her surprising celebrity encounters (think Jude Law to Dave Grohl!) to how her move from Manhattan to Vermont during the pandemic influenced her perspective on work and life. Throughout our conversation, Mack emphasizes what she's learned throughout her career: the importance of staying relevant and adapting to change. Read everything! She also emphasizes that successful marketing isn't just about tactics—it's about understanding the people behind every decision and fostering diverse teams to help drive meaningful outcomes. She's an advocate for underrepresented voices and speaks passionately about her mission to create platforms for women, LGBTQ+, neurodivergent and people of color -- evident from her work, for example, with the non-profit, Creative Spirit -- and giving all people more visibility. "I had a real challenge with representation in technology. I felt like there were a lot of people that we weren't hearing from. But man did they have great ideas and I wanted to build a platform or a way to help these folks get out in market in a meaningful way." Whether you're a startup founder, a marketing professional, or simply someone interested in authentic leadership, Mack's journey from "accidental" tech marketer to industry game-changer offers invaluable insights about intention, representation, and the courage to create what doesn't yet exist. Key Moments: 01:29 The Twists and Turns to Tech In Mack's Career Timeline 08:40 The Importance of Names and Intentional Branding 11:04 SalientMG's Mission and How to Deliver Impact 14:52 Challenges and Opportunities in Tech Marketing 21:16 Innovative Tech Companies to Watch 22:55 The Role of Marketers in Adapting to New Technologies 26:08 The StartUp Marketer Initiative: Democratizing Marketing Expertise 29:43 Supporting Creative Spirit and Inclusion Everywhere 36:42 Personal Stories: Celebrity Encounters 42:15 Pro Advice for Aspiring Marketing Leaders Key Links: Connect with Mack: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mackmckelvey/ Salient MG: https://salientmg.com/ StartUp Marketer: https://thestartupmarketer.com/ Connect with E.B. Moss and Insider Interviews: With Media & Marketing Experts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews Blusky: https://bsky.app/profile/mossappeal.bsky.social And, as mentioned, catch my other podcast, "It's Quite a Living," too! If you enjoyed this episode, follow Insider Interviews,
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  • Behind the Billboards: Inside OOH with billups

    Behind the Billboards: Inside OOH with billups
    Feb 4 2025
    Out-of-home advertising isn’t just about billboards anymore. With data-driven targeting, creative innovations, and deep measurement capabilities, the OOH industry has transformed into a sophisticated media channel that deserves a bigger seat at the table. In this episode of Insider Interviews, I got to explore the great outdoors with David Krupp, Global CEO of Billups, and Jaime Byrdak, CEO of North America, to go beyond the boards and explore how out-of-home ('OOH' and 'DOOH') is making an undeniable impact on today’s media mix. David and Jaime bring decades of experience in the industry, having worked together for 20 years in the industry before bringing their considerable chops to billups, Ben and Heather Billups' eponymous agency -- a name that works pretty darn well for working with billboards! The company itself is only a couple of decades old but already claims nine patents that solve for the challenges of measurement and capturing data-driven insights in OOH. Probably good reasons it also claimed a spot on the 2024 list of fastest-growing companies among the Inc.5000 of companies "building the future." From their strategic approach to planning and measurement to their creative applications of technology like anamorphic (think: 3D) and AI-powered optimization, David and Jaime share insights on why OOH is more "in" and relevant than ever -- and how they are making the most of being the largest independent agency in the space. Anamorphic DOOH "Out-of-home is sometimes the first to get cut from a media plan, but it shouldn’t be. We’re proving that it’s measurable, it drives sales, and it deserves a seat at the table." -- Jaime Byrdak It's about staying nimble even with international scale, offering up considerable expertise as "consigliere" for media planners and buyers, and growing relationships both inside with coworkers and outside with customers. "Anybody can buy a billboard. The question is, are you buying the right one in the right place at the right time for the right reasons against the right audience?" -- David Krupp To that point, hear about their leadership philosophies, personal stories (including Jaime’s time as a White Sox ball girl!), and what’s next for the future of OOH. Top Takeaways: OOH is More Than Awareness – While traditionally seen as just a brand awareness tool, out-of-home can now drive sales, foot traffic, and digital engagement thanks to improved data and measurement techniques. Technology is Changing the Game – Innovations like AI-powered planning tools, real-time ad serving, and 3D anamorphic creative are pushing OOH into new territory. Measurement is Critical – Billups has developed patented measurement methodologies to prove ROI, showing how OOH contributes to everything from app downloads to in-store visits. The Power of Independence – As the largest independent out-of-home agency, Billups leverages its flexibility to provide unbiased, data-driven media recommendations. Leadership & Mentorship Matter – Both David and Jaime emphasize the importance of team culture, professional development, and fostering the next generation of OOH experts. Key Moments: [00:00] Get to Know the Great Outdoors & the Evolution of OOH [03:00] Get to Know the Experts: David Krupp and Jaime Byrdak CEOs of billups [07:30] Out-of-Home’s Role in the Media Mix [10:20] How Data & Technology Are Driving Smarter Campaigns [16:00] Measuring the Impact: Proving ROI in OOH [21:45] Creative Innovations: 3D, AI, and What’s Next [28:15] Boards for Good: Billups’ Corporate Mission & Industry Leadership [34:00] The Future of OOH & Leadership Lessons If you enjoyed this episode, follow Insider Interviews for me, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify... or a tip in my jar to help me tip my engineer, Jim Mullen!: https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal! Connect with David, Jaime and Billups: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/billups/
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