It Depends

By: Jordan Holland and Katie Hogan
  • Summary

  • CrossFit Games legend and seminar staff flowmaster Katie Hogan, and multi-location affiliate owner, and CrossFit Games participation award winner Jordan Holland discuss everything at the intersection of fitness and business with an admitted CrossFit bias. If you love snatches, and sarcasm you found your people.
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Episodes
  • 70. Making sales calls, Rogue vs Concept 2, take a break
    Oct 21 2024

    Jordan and Katie wax nostalgic about the golden days of magazine collages and ransom note aesthetics, then shift gears into the wild world of AI, as JHo tries to figure out if his kid’s calculus grade is pure genius or just a well-played ChatGPT assist.

    The fitness world gets spicy as they tackle Metfix, which sounds like a workout plan but might just be a secret club with a confusing marketing strategy. But hey, nothing says “join us” like not knowing what you’re signing up for, right? They also highlight the art of making sales calls without sounding like a desperate ex, plus the vital need to mix in some Padres smack talk to keep things fun. Oh, and let's not forget: rest is apparently good for you, unless you’re on a four-wheeler in Iowa—then it’s optional.

    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com


    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm


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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • 69. Painted dogs, Katie is a hot mom, and making fitness, friends, AND money.
    Oct 5 2024

    Jordan and Katie kick things off with a lighthearted discussion about viral news, including a Chinese zoo painting dogs to look like pandas. They dive into the importance of following up with gym leads, with JHo sharing insights on their process at RESET and emphasizing how persistence can lead to higher conversions. Katie reflects on the challenges of balancing gym capacity and maintaining the right community vibe in smaller, personal training environments. They also explore the growing influence of AI in fitness, considering how it might complement coaches rather than replace them. The episode wraps up with their usual witty banter, gym stories, and a listener question about handling trainers who want to open their own gyms.

    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com

    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm


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    58 mins
  • 68. Affiliate summit, to discount or not to discount, and level up your education
    Sep 21 2024

    In this episode, Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland discuss a variety of topics ranging from the science behind Doritos and invisibility to the importance of fitness certifications and coaching feedback. They reflect on the recent San Diego Affiliate Summit, share insights on gym management challenges, and emphasize the significance of marketing in the fitness industry. The conversation also touches on the topic of discounts in fitness and concludes with personal wins and lessons learned from the week.

    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com


    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm



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    59 mins

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