Porn, Betrayal, Sex and the Experts — PBSE

By: Steve Moore & Mark Kastleman
  • Summary

  • Two sex addicts in long-term successful recovery are ALSO world-class Counselors who specialize in porn and sex addiction recovery. Drawing on 40 years of combined personal and professional experience, Mark and Steve get RAW and REAL about HOW to overcome addiction, heal betrayal trauma and save your marriage. If you're struggling with addiction—we get it. Recovery is hard. We've been there. We'll help you take the fight to your addiction like never before. If you're married to an addict—we KNOW what it's like to nearly destroy a marriage! We'll help you understand the world of your husband's addiction and begin healing your betrayal trauma, regardless of what he decides to do. You don't have to stay stuck. You don't have to keep suffering. We've made all the mistakes so you don't have to. Take back your life. Take back your marriage. Let's do this together! This is the PBSE podcast.

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Episodes
  • COLLABORATING as a Couple in the HARD Struggle of Recovery & Healing
    Oct 15 2024

    This is PBSE's 250th Episode! Our deepest gratitude goes out to our global audience of listeners!!! YOU all make this possible! THANK YOU!

    After reviewing the last several months of PBSE Episodes, we have tackled a LOT of HEAVY topics! For this 250th episode, we want to focus on all of the hopeful, optimistic, positive reasons WHY we all do the CRAZY hard work of betrayal trauma healing and addiction recovery. To illustrate just how "worth it" this can all be, here's a comment that one our of our Dare to Connect clients just submitted to us—

    When I first started with D2C I had a year and half of sobriety from porn and masturbation addiction. My wife and I were still struggling with communication because of her trauma response and my lack of shame resilience. D2C sessions have helped us identify these issues which has helped us to start the true healing and recovery process. We are communicating and now collaborating with each other like we never have before. We are still learning new things a year in and plan to continue with D2C for a while longer. Thank you Mark and Steve for all the effort you put into your work.

    You will notice in the title the words in all caps—”COLLABORATING in the HARD”

    The greatest CONNECTION, INTIMACY & RELATIONSHIP RESILIENCY come from coming together as a “collaborative team” to face the STRUGGLES!

    Our experiences in our own relationships as well as what we have witnessed working with couples for more than 20 years—

    • Hard challenges and struggles can tear us apart OR unite us—
      • How does the hard disconnect couples?
        • Turning away instead of turning toward: fear, shame & pain leading to going it alone; trying to CONTROL outcomes
        • Without proper boundaries, the desire to emotionally caretake one another can blur the lines of accountability and diminish collaboration
        • One or both partners engaging in avoidance cycles can establish a pattern of seeking peace at the cost of growth
    • How can the hard unite couples—
      • Acknowledging challenges, as well as their accompanying fears, hesitations, insecurities, and vulnerabilities sets the stage for truly intimate dialogue.
      • Steve and Brittany: we may not last through Christmas…
      • Mark & Ladawn: I don’t want to hurt her anymore; I’ll take care of this on my own; let’s not rock the boat on what are at least somewhat stable waters in how she sees me, where we are as a couple, why make this harder than it needs to be . . .

    Owning and “being real” about the obstacles ahead puts us in the driver’s seat as a coupleship: Once we know where we are really starting, we can begin to truly prepare for and actually set out on the required journey.

    Developing coupleship “skills” in the HARD means REAL SKILLS! We are “welded” together–an atomic bomb can’t break us apart! I’ve got you; you’ve got me; we’ve got US!

    We actually get to decide for the first time if we want to CHOOSE “all” of each other—and KEEP choosing each other.

    For a summary article from the transcript of this podcast, go to: "COLLABORATING as a Couple in the HARD Struggle of Recovery & Healing"

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    37 mins
  • My Addict Partner Only Engages in “Shallow Conversation.” Is there any Hope He will ever treat me like a True Friend and Partner?
    Oct 8 2024

    In Episode 249, Mark & Steve respond in detail to a situation and quesiton submitted by the betrayed spouse of porn/sex addict. Here are her words—

    My husband is very closed off with me. He doesn't tell me important things about his life, family, or what really happens in his 12-Step recovery meetings. It's like I have to know the answer and ask specific questions to get him to talk to me with any sort of detail. I know he used to do this to hide his pornography use and affairs. But even simple things, like going to a restaurant he kept hidden. Is this just a part of his personality? He's sober from porn now, but he still doesn't talk to me. It's like I only exist to him when he is at home. He was recently in a car accident and didn't tell me until he came home from the hospital. Is there any hope he will treat me like a true friend and partner, or has compartmentalization become so ingrained in him, this is just how it is?

    The song “Say Something” by “A Great Big World”—Say something, I'm giving up on you; I'm sorry that I couldn't get to you; Anywhere I would've followed you; Say something, I'm giving up on you.

    • Why can addicts be “closed off” to their partners?
      • It can be “personality/style” from childhood
      • It can be “learned” due to environment, trauma, etc.
      • It can be a BIG part of the addiction cycle/system; shame cycle; fear cycle; etc.
      • These are possible explanations, NOT se
    • How does this impact betrayed partners?
      • While partners suffer horrible fallout from betrayal trauma, PTSD, etc., nearly all DO desperately want to connect & collaborate
      • Silence, surface/shallow conversation, “compartmentalization” (as she calls it), hiding, lying, gaslighting, etc., “pile on” and create “Complex Trauma”
    • What is the Addict Partner’s Response-ability in this situation?
      • Pride, ego, shame, fear, discomfort, life-long habits, lack of skills, etc. will too easily keep the addict from making the REAL commitment to change.
      • This is ALL about his individual preparation and “what he brings with him” to the coupleship interaction—
        • PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!—Journaling, opening up to his outside support system, simple daily human interactions, conversations with his Higher Power
        • Making deposits to the Relationship Trust Account is SUPER important–and keeping her actively “informed” about your recovery progress, recovery insights, deep thoughts, feelings, etc.
        • Start with “structure” and “expectations”—Daily Couples Check-in; weekly Partnership Meeting; may need to start with written communication or adhere to a “script”--(which may be hard for the partner!)
        • This is NOT easy, but the addict gets to decide IF he will do the consistent WORK to progressively develop and practice the skills—NO MORE EXCUSES!
    • What is the betrayed partner’s “side of the street” in this situation?
      • She has AUTHENTIC wants and needs in this relationship!
        • She needs to take time to clearly identify and write down what these are, including her vision of how she desires this relationship to progress.
        • She needs to create boundaries of safety around her wants and needs along with outcomes/consequences
        • It is VERY important that she CLEARLY communicates her deep feelings—like the song we started with . . .
    • Will we ever become true friends and partners???
      • What does it mean to “be true friends & partners"?
      • What is INTIMACY?
      • What is CONNECTION?
      • ARE WE COMPATIBLE???


    For a full transcript of this podcast in article format, go to: pbsepodcast.com

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    41 mins
  • How does a Betrayed Partner Navigate the News that their Sex Addict Partner has Contracted an Incurable STD?
    Oct 1 2024

    In episode 248, Mark & Steve tackle an extremely intense and heart-breaking submission by a betrayed partner. Here's what she submitted—

    I have listened to many of your podcast episodes. An area I wish you would do an episode on is how is a spouse to handle it when your porn addicted/SA husband comes home and discloses (not the first time in our marriage) that he has been acting out for several years and contracted an STD. How am I supposed to forgive and get past that? I can’t see ever having an intimate relationship with him. However, we have built a great life (other than his sexual addiction) over our 20+ year marriage. He shows remorse, is in therapy as am I. We have not had a Formal Therapeutic Disclosure yet but it’s coming. There are a lot of aspects I’m struggling with but would love an episode on navigating an incurable STD. Sincerely, Heartbroken Spouse.

    Our hearts go out to this betrayed partner! In too many ways, the consequences and fallout are not only devastating upon disclosure, but also create an ongoing traumatic nightmare!

    • There are serious, long-term and permanent medical implications at play with this example which we are not going to tackle here.
      • IT IS CRITICAL that this couple, if they haven’t already, seek immediate medical testing and treatment, as well as education regarding the issues at play and their long-term implications.
    • What this is like for betrayed partners?
      • The compounding effects of ”Complex Trauma”—trickled disclosure, “bomb dropping”
      • A “painful paradox”—facing the devastation & realities of disclosure and PAST/ONGOING trauma while at the same time—”We have built a great life over our 20+ years of marriage”
      • What is authentic for her going forward—her wants and her needs; what is she willing to do and not do; VERY SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES around this!
    • What is this like for the porn/sex addict?
      • WHEN the addict is ALL in and doing the WORK, the CONSEQUENCES & OUTCOMES of his past choices do NOT magically go away! In some ways, this process actually INTENSIFIES!
      • How does he PROACTIVELY meet his betrayed partner’s authentic wants & needs; provide as much safety as is possible; be TRANSPARENT about his work; his learning; his progress; PROACTIVE PLANS he puts together and presents–LEAD OUT!
      • What is he willing or not willing to “sacrifice” for this to work going forward?
    • When these two worlds COLLIDE—Addiction & Ongoing Trauma—how can a Couple navigate this?!
      • Be mindful of the tendency to reactively make BIG decisions in the midst of intense emotion BEFORE the recovery & healing processes have had a truly fair chance to unfold, progress and bring about positive change.
      • Create as safe a space as possible for OPEN, AUTHENTIC EXPRESSION & DIALOGUE—NOT avoiding, minimizing, care-taking, shutting down, etc., to escape sitting in and talking about the HARD
      • Although CRAZY HARD in the midst of addiction & betrayal, TEMPORARILY pushing a “pause” button and “sitting in a state of grace” while the small, progressive steps in the process unfold.
      • Then, having done “all” you feel you can, coming together to ask, “Are we compatible”? Can we “get” to compatibility? HOW?
      • This will, due to the ongoing nature of the issues, NEED TO BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION, with appropriate medical and mental health professionals involved.

    For a full transcript of this podcast in article format, go to: https://www.daretoconnectnow.com/post/how-does-a-betrayed-partner-navigate-the-news-that-their-sex-addict-partner-has-contracted-an-incura

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really knows their stuff

GREAT PODCAST

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well worth the listen for either the addict or the betrayed.


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