"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That, we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the world as an antidote for anxiety.

Plus, John thinks he worries better than you do and finds a magical hat in the strangest place. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an idea to bring folks back to the movie theatre, and tells us how the US almost got a pinstriped flag.

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Think about it: the greatest adventures you’ve experienced almost certainly had inconveniences. What mishaps are you currently experiencing that might lead to great stories later on? On this episode of Talk About That, we share some laughs about our holiday hiccups, and a few of our favorite funny moments from Christmases past. As GK Chesterton wisely said, "An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered." Whether it's a cold performance venue or a baptism in freezing water, embracing these inconveniences can turn them into cherished stories. Our perspective can shape our experiences, especially during the holiday season. What situation in your life currently needs a perspective shift?

We also discuss how John has a new name for December 23rd and has an Elf on the Shelf that refuses to move. Jonnie does an indoor show without any heat and searches for a lucky pickle in his Christmas tree.

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John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport and tells us the real reason "It's a Wonderful Life" became a classic.

Plus, a conversation about self-righteousness and the temptation to make the gospel about "other more sinful people" when it's really about us.

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