"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That, we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the world as an antidote for anxiety.

Plus, John thinks he worries better than you do and finds a magical hat in the strangest place. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an idea to bring folks back to the movie theatre, and tells us how the US almost got a pinstriped flag.

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Think about it: the greatest adventures you’ve experienced almost certainly had inconveniences. What mishaps are you currently experiencing that might lead to great stories later on? On this episode of Talk About That, we share some laughs about our holiday hiccups, and a few of our favorite funny moments from Christmases past. As GK Chesterton wisely said, "An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered." Whether it's a cold performance venue or a baptism in freezing water, embracing these inconveniences can turn them into cherished stories. Our perspective can shape our experiences, especially during the holiday season. What situation in your life currently needs a perspective shift?

We also discuss how John has a new name for December 23rd and has an Elf on the Shelf that refuses to move. Jonnie does an indoor show without any heat and searches for a lucky pickle in his Christmas tree.

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John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport and tells us the real reason "It's a Wonderful Life" became a classic.

Plus, a conversation about self-righteousness and the temptation to make the gospel about "other more sinful people" when it's really about us.

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John questions Santa's delivery route and takes a private jet straight to prison. Meanwhile, Jonnie has his rental car confiscated in the middle of the night, and tells the story of the time Winston Churchill got a prescription for booze.

Plus, a conversation about Advent, waiting, and the beauty of brokenness.

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John tells us why we really eat turkey at Thanksgiving and is forced to perform in a talent show before he can join the feast. Meanwhile, Jonnie defends the lowly Sloppy Joe as a quality sandwich and tells the tale of the woman so cheap she made nightgowns out of newspapers.

Plus, a conversation about what it really means to "prepare a table for us in the presence of our enemies” and why some people are disappointed by God's mercy towards others.

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On this episode of Talk About That, we come back to the idea that cynicism is easy and hope is hard. If we’re not careful, we can all be cynics. But what have we built? The things that we grow and build in life that matter most are usually the people with whom we’ve built relationships. Today, John and Jonnie have a conversation about the courage it takes to hope and why the next generation may actually be getting tired of cynicism.

Plus, John doesn't remember a popular clothing brand and almost falls for a piano scam. Meanwhile, Jonnie nearly has a wardrobe malfunction and argues that your blue jeans don't belong in the freezer.

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John defends green peppers, eats gum wrappers, and needs a hobby. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders why people romanticize medieval times and reveals the surprising reason the sandwich was really invented.

Plus, a conversation about wisdom and foolishness, and how the internet has robbed us of contemplation before rendering an opinion.

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John keeps a secret folder of phrases to make himself look cool at parties and invents a clothing line. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders people who pray with one eye open and tells the story of the man who was jailed for 7 years for smoking tobacco.

Plus, a conversation about the one thing wise and stupid people have in common.

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