• When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

  • By: Jessie Sage
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When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

By: Jessie Sage
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  • When We’re Not Hustling is a twice monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more. On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.
    2024
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Episodes
  • S2 E16 AP: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway

    S2 E16 AP: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway
    Oct 16 2024

    In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts discuss Kaytlin Bailey, a multifaceted individual who has significantly influenced the podcasting, sex work, and activist communities. Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Milk Glass delve into Kaytlin's extensive contributions, including her critical feedback shaping the show's messaging that sex work is legitimate work. They also highlight her historical insights and her juxtaposition of personal experiences, such as her father's military service and her own sex work, to explore broader societal issues. The conversation underscores Kaytlin's impact on the hosts and the themes of their show, emphasizing the importance of recognizing sex work as valid and respectable.

    Additionally, the hosts discuss Kaytlin's dynamic career, which includes being a comedian, sex worker, historian, and boxer. They admire her ability to weave together various aspects of her life into a cohesive narrative that challenges societal norms and addresses issues like misogyny, PTSD, and legislative impacts on sex work. The episode is a tribute to Kaytlin's intelligence, resilience, and the transformative power of her work, encouraging listeners to appreciate the depth and complexity of her endeavors. The hosts' admiration for her as a "main character" in their lives reflects the profound influence she has had on them and their audience.

    In This Episode:

    00:02: Introduction to the After-Party Podcast

    00:23: Host and Co-Hosts Introductions

    00:42: Kaytlin Bailey's Impact on the Podcast

    01:44: Validating Sex Work as Legitimate

    03:38: Comedians' Intelligence and Timing

    04:21: Discussing Rap's Cognitive Demands

    05:22: Kaytlin's Show and Social Commentary

    07:54: Boxing and Kaytlin's World Tour

    10:33: Gender, Kink, and Feminine Rage

    14:00: Transformative Experiences and Emotions

    People:

    Guest: Kaytlin Bailey

    Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Melissa Milk

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.
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    34 mins
  • S2 E16: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway with Kaytlin Bailey

    S2 E16: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway with Kaytlin Bailey
    Oct 14 2024
    Kaytlin Bailey discusses her show "Whore's Eye View," which combines comedy with a historical perspective on sex work, blending stand-up comedy with a real history lecture. She shares how her father's military background and her experiences as a sex worker influenced her writing, exploring themes of exploitation and violence across different professions. Through her show, Kaytlin aims to provide a nuanced understanding of sex work by juxtaposing it with other forms of labor and highlighting the boundaries and consent involved in both. Kaytlin also talks about her passion for boxing, which started as a way to channel her aggression and has become a recreational hobby. She explains how boxing has helped her process emotions, overcome trauma, and stay connected to her body. Jessie and Kaitlyn discuss the parallels between their experiences in sex work and boxing, emphasizing the importance of boundaries, consent, and self-discovery in both fields. Kaytlin also shares insights from her travels and experiences boxing in different countries, noting cultural differences and similarities in boxing gyms worldwide. The episode concludes with Kaitlyn discussing her upcoming projects, including future performances of "Whore's Eye View," and sharing resources for listeners interested in sex worker rights advocacy. In This Episode: 00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling podcast 01:23: Podcast host introduction & mission 02:44: Upcoming live event & nonprofit status 05:07: Kaytlin Bailey's show & background 08:02: Kaytlin introduces herself & her work 10:47: Juxtaposing military & sex work experiences 13:56: Boxing as a hobby & its impact 22:26: Lessons from sparring & personal growth 35:52: Wrap-up and book recommendations Guest: Sex worker rights advocate, comedian, and writer, Kaytlin Bailey is the Founder & Executive Director of Old Pros, a non-profit media organization creating conditions to change the status of sex workers in society. Host of The Oldest Profession Podcast, she is also the creator of Whore’s Eye View, a mad dash through 10,000 years of sex worker history. You can find Kaytlin: Website: kaytlinbailey.com X: @kaytlinbailey Instagram: @kaytlinbailey Recommendations: Candida Royalle and the Sexual Revolution: A History from Below by Jane Kamensky Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History by Philippa Gregory Florence and the Machine The Rest: RSVP to The Holy Hour Book Launch Event in Pittsburgh on Oct 16: HERE. Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • S2 E15 AP: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and Skin

    S2 E15 AP: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and Skin
    Oct 9 2024

    In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts, Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melissa Milk, engage in a lively discussion about their personal experiences and reflections on the topics of spirituality, sexuality, and consciousness. They start by expressing their love for October and share some amusing anecdotes about Halloween costumes and quirky questions from clients. As the conversation progresses, they delve into deeper subjects, such as the importance of understanding bodily functions and hygiene, especially in the context of working with clients who have high support needs. The hosts also touch on their backgrounds and how their upbringing and personal experiences have influenced their perspectives on these topics.

    The discussion takes a more profound turn when they reflect on a recent interview with Galen Grace, a tantric massage practitioner. They share their initial skepticism about tantric practices due to their misuse in some contexts but are ultimately moved by Galen's genuine and heartfelt approach. They discuss the significance of Galen's story about experiencing a life-threatening aortic dissection during a session, which highlights the deep connection between physical and spiritual healing. The hosts also explore the broader implications of sexual energy and its role in personal growth and well-being. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the interconnectedness of mind, body, and spirit, and the transformative power of shared experiences and open dialogue.

    In This Episode:

    00:10: Welcome and Favorite Months Discussion

    00:26: Halloween Tattoo and Fantasy Talk

    00:43: Halloween Costume Ideas

    05:25: Show Introductions and Partners

    06:30: Jessie and Melissa's Fun Session Story

    09:37: Transition to Galen's Interview

    11:02: Spirituality and Healing Discussion

    20:15: Cultural Differences and Moving to Pittsburgh

    28:15: Psychedelics and Consciousness

    People:

    Guest: Galen Grace

    Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Melissa Milk

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.
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    37 mins

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